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*COMPLETED* Ramsbury parish registers: HARRIS and TALMAGE
« on: Saturday 28 November 09 11:03 GMT (UK) »
This is my first look-up request. Please let me know if it could have been improved. My thanks to everyone who looks at it.

I'm seeking information about Winifred Kate Harris and Herbert Allen Talmage, reportedly married in Ramsbury in 1911. I have a fair bit of information about him and two of their sons, but little about her and a third son, and would like to verify and extend what I have:

    Herbert Allen Talmage b. June 1889 in Ramsbury, son of Tobias and Louisa Talmage.
    Birth of a Winifred Kate Harris registered Hungerford Q3 1894.
    1901 census shows a Winifred Harris age 6 in Lambourn, Berks* (also six others elsewhere).
    Marriage(s) of Winifred K Harris and of Herbert A Talmage registered Hungerford in Q4 1911 and believed to have taken place in Ramsbury.
    son William Alec Talmage b. May 1912 Ramsbury.
    son Edward Talmage b. 1913 Ramsbury.
    son (?name) born 1914-1918, believed to have died young.
    After Herbert's death in 1917, Winifred Talmage is believed to have remarried (possibly more than once); surname at death thought to have been Smith.
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    * Ramsbury parish is in East Wiltshire, but official registrations were in Hungerford, Berks. Winifred was perhaps born not in Ramsbury but somewhere in Berkshire.
    Talmage (Wiltshire , Marlborough, Ramsbury, Swindon, New Zealand, USA)
    Bowsher, Cox, Harris, Hinder, Honey, Riding (Berkshire, Lambourn)
    Franklin (Wiltshire, Great Bedwyn, New Zealand)
    Ponting and variants (Wiltshire, Marlborough, Ramsbury)
    Rushen (Wiltshire, Ramsbury)

    West Berkshire / North & East Wiltshire / North Hampshire

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    Re: Ramsbury parish registers: HARRIS and TALMAGE
    « Reply #1 on: Saturday 28 November 09 11:45 GMT (UK) »
    I've just discovered birth of Herbert R Talmage registered Hungerford Q1 1917, mother's maiden name Harris, on FreeBMD, and a death at age 17 of Herbert R Talmage in Q2 1934, also registered Hungerford.
    Talmage (Wiltshire , Marlborough, Ramsbury, Swindon, New Zealand, USA)
    Bowsher, Cox, Harris, Hinder, Honey, Riding (Berkshire, Lambourn)
    Franklin (Wiltshire, Great Bedwyn, New Zealand)
    Ponting and variants (Wiltshire, Marlborough, Ramsbury)
    Rushen (Wiltshire, Ramsbury)

    West Berkshire / North & East Wiltshire / North Hampshire

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    Re: Ramsbury parish registers: HARRIS and TALMAGE
    « Reply #2 on: Saturday 28 November 09 12:34 GMT (UK) »
    Hi Talmage2,
    Welcome to Rootschat :)

    Marriage;
    Herbert A TALMAGE
    Winifred K HARRIS
    December 1911
    Hungerford
    2c 676

    if you purchase the Cert it will give you Winifreds Fathers name and occp, which will help you find them on earlier Census entries.

    Trish :)
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    Re: Ramsbury parish registers: HARRIS and TALMAGE
    « Reply #3 on: Saturday 28 November 09 12:54 GMT (UK) »
    There only seems to be the 3 children you have found all reg. Hungerford.

    2nd Marriage;
    Winifred K TALMAGE
    Reginald B SANDFORD
    September 1921
    Rochford
    4a 1743

    So looks like she was in Essex.

    Births SANDFORD,  Mothers name Talmage
    1923, Male reg Rochford
    There are others earlier as well, where Mothers name is just down as Sandford. This is a possibility;
    1921, Male reg Edmonton

    ( Sorry cant post names as they could be living)

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    Re: Ramsbury parish registers: HARRIS and TALMAGE
    « Reply #4 on: Saturday 28 November 09 13:18 GMT (UK) »
    3rd marriage ?

    Winifred K Talmage
    Sydney Smith
    Dec qtr 1934
    Hungerford
    2c 855

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    Re: Ramsbury parish registers: HARRIS and TALMAGE
    « Reply #5 on: Saturday 28 November 09 13:35 GMT (UK) »
    Thanks Suz :)

    Boy, is he hard to work out on Census;

    1891 census the Talmages ( Tobias and Louisa) are in Wiltshire;
    Herbert seems to be down as Bertie age 1.
    RG12/972/149/8

    1901 there is a Herbert A, born 1897 with them . Image actually says age 11 ( born c 1890).
    RG13/1125/146/9


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    Re: Ramsbury parish registers: HARRIS and TALMAGE
    « Reply #6 on: Saturday 28 November 09 14:01 GMT (UK) »
    We are not allowed to post 1911 census

    but

    there is a Herbert Talmage in index age 21

    living High St Ramsbury with parents and siblings

    He is a cycle News agent (own account)

    Suz
    Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England
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    Re: Ramsbury parish registers: HARRIS and TALMAGE
    « Reply #7 on: Saturday 28 November 09 14:10 GMT (UK) »
    trish - you are correct 1901 census herbert's age is transcribed as 4 but image clearly shows age as 11

    Suz
    Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England
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    Re: Ramsbury parish registers: HARRIS and TALMAGE
    « Reply #8 on: Saturday 28 November 09 14:22 GMT (UK) »
    another dicrepancy

    1901 herbert's sister is Ada M age 3 b Ramsbury

    Her birth reg gives her name as Ida May Talmage Jun qtr 1898 Hungerford 2c 266

    In 1911 census she is May age 12

    sister Rose Louisa Talmage is a Boarder with the Jordan family in 1901

    1901
    Queen St Dorchester Oxfordshire
    Rose L Talmage Boarder U 20 School teacher b Ramsbury Wilts
    RG13 1140 129 30

    1911 Rose is still single , a school teacher and living with parents

    By 1911 Tobias and Louisa claim they have had 7 children but only 6 are still living -so there is another child to find

    Suz
    Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England
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