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COMPLETED Help needed with London boroughs
« on: Friday 27 November 09 21:41 GMT (UK) »
I am trying to trace the birth cert for a Alice A Davis, listed on 1871 census as age 4, born in Kent / New Cross. On census, living at 1 Albion Grove, Hackney. I have been searching for birth certs for 1866-1867 and have not found any stating Kent or New Cross. Can anyone advise what other areas / boroughs this might be listed as ? As I live in the frozen North, my knowledge of London is VERY limited! Any help would be much appreciated.

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Re: Help needed with London boroughs
« Reply #1 on: Friday 27 November 09 21:55 GMT (UK) »
New Cross is an area of London near Deptford so I would suggest that you need Greenwich RD which included Deptford at that date.

http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/greenwich.html

Might she have been Alice Albertina?  Birth registered Mar 1867 Greenwich 1d 727

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Re: Help needed with London boroughs
« Reply #2 on: Friday 27 November 09 22:05 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Nell, I will certainly check it out and let you know. Her brother (George Richard Davis) was aged 10 months on the same census, and his birth place listed as Forest Hill. I have ordered a cert for a birth at St George In The East for 1870 and it is the wrong one - I have found another birth listed at Bethnal Green - is that near Forest Hill? Sorry to be so clueless - but if anyone ever needs help with Newcastle or Cumbria, I'm the one to ask!

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« Reply #3 on: Friday 27 November 09 22:28 GMT (UK) »
Forest Hill is Lewisham/Camberwell area, about three stations down the line from New Cross.  Not Bethnal Green, which is north of the Thames.  Forest Hill and New Cross are both south of the Thames.

I can't see George Richard at the moment.  :(

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Re: Help needed with London boroughs
« Reply #4 on: Friday 27 November 09 22:32 GMT (UK) »
Forest Hill is south of the river Thames and Bethnal Green to the north.  Unlikely to be the right person unless you have another link.

Forest Hill was still country until after 1854 when the Crystal Palace was moved from Hyde Park.  That prompted the building of large houses in the area and the beginning of it becoming a suburb.

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Re: Help needed with London boroughs
« Reply #5 on: Friday 27 November 09 22:40 GMT (UK) »
Hi

This website might help a little (it doesn't always translate older districts into modern equivalents).

http://www.british-towns.net/en/level_2_display_ByL1.asp?GetL1=203

If you put Forest Hill in the search engine in the top right hand corner it will tell you that that is in the modern day London borough of Lewisham (then as shown on the census Lewisham Kent), adjacent to Greenwich (see the website map) and both south of the river Thames. St George in the East and Bethnal Green (both at one time in Middlesex) are both in the 'east end' of London - north of the river Thames - modern day borough of Tower Hamlets.

Census night 1871 was 2nd April so if he was 10 months old his birth would be registered in the June or at the latest September quarter of 1870.

There is a George Robert birth registration in Greenwich? That's about the nearest

Births Sep 1870  
Davis  George Robert     Greenwich  1d 722


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Re: Help needed with London boroughs
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 03 December 09 13:41 GMT (UK) »
Sorry for the late reply to this topic.

Although civil registration started in 1837, it wasn't compulsory to register births until 1875 so there may not be a birth cert to find.

Have you found a baptism?

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« Reply #7 on: Thursday 03 December 09 14:17 GMT (UK) »
Useful info for me also
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Re: Help needed with London boroughs
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 06 December 09 21:45 GMT (UK) »
I have now got the birth certificate for Alice Albertina - thanks for that - as it is the right one ! With regard to the tip from Dawn about birth registration not being compulsory until 1875, I was not aware of that. How do I start tracing baptism records - if all I know is that George Richard Davis was living in Hackney in 1871 and census states birth place was Forest Hill ? Can anyone give me some tips and good web sites to use?