Looking for Relatives of Richard Napoleon Wyombe Townsend REECE

[outback_thunda]

thanks guys

[teenieboppa]

My heads spinning --- how awesome --- I have a Rosella Beaucroft on my scribblings.. which 'sounds' like Ellen or Orella 

I also had a Beecroft come up ages ago when I did a Google on Rosella Beaucroft --- I got a Hannah and Mary Beecroft (from Parramatta)

My little story about the 'father' of Jacob Steele Reece (JSR) goes like this ---

Harry Reece (no trace) is the natural father of JSR ---

Annie Adelaide pregnant with JSR (to Harry Reece) when she married Isaace Steele (son of Jacob Steele and Ellen Beecroft (Beaucroft spelling in my notes)

Is Ellen - Orella - Helen - Rosella --- all the same person --- did she change her name not to be traced to her siblings..

Back on track -

Annie married Isaace when preg with JSR (so Jacob was naturally Jacob Reece) --- it is assumed Isaace Steele married her to avoid scandal (single mother) hence Steele-Reece

Ellen/Orella married Benjamin Maddrah first - had Annie - then married Jacob Steele and had Isaace Steele who married Annie --- they have the same mother --- is this why their daughter died at a very young age..in my notes somewhere from our chat on roots..

Isaace Steele had a sister called Marrianne --- Marrianne had a family Bible which she gave to Isaace on her death bed --- there were pages missing from the family Bible around Annie and Isaace --- and now the Bible has gone missing all together --- my great Aunt passed on this information before she died, I have the letters.

I love this 

[teenieboppa]

Correction -- did Ellen, Orella, Helen, Rosella --- change her name not to be traced to her CHILDREN who married..

I didn't know Isaace and Annie had any natural children of their own til started to chat here --- on paper they had JSR but he is not the natural child of Isaace.. according to my notes..

[outback_thunda]

hey again teena,

Well as far as name change goes, back in those days(my understanding) is that there were so many different spellings and poor upkeep of records. Thus names and spellings arent necessarily the cause of the person. The informant may have wrong info etc. Im assuming if anything that Ellen's middle name may be Orcella/or Similar Orella.

Maybe I can help here, Isaac Steel(as you call him) Is most definitly not a Steel. He is a Reece and his parents are as stated in here somewhere Frances Barnett and Isaac Reece.  He had a brother HARRY Reece who died at an early age on board a ship as stated in here somwhere too.

These details are in fact on a marriage certificate between annie and isaac. All checks out. too many records match with it to be different. Many tales are twisted and sometimes it takes forever to get to the right story..

As for JACOB STEELE REECE...his name is derived from Annie's step father Jacob Steel and Reece surname come from Isaac REECE his father. The baby (Flora could have died from many different things.illness/ cot death/ plague/ anything really. I will order the certificate(im a certificate person) too find out. But there is no indication that it is due to being the prodigy of 2 siblings.

Umm if you look in my tree on ancestry you will see the distinct difference in parents and a paper trail basically. As for a sister call marianne??? I cant see one for Isaac as in Annie' shusband but maybe the next generation but that seems too far back.

anyways Hope that helps

[outback_thunda]

Just had a look, may have generations a bit muddles but Isaac Recce (annies husband) had a brother called Ebenezer, he married a maryanne and they had a son called Isaac.....so i assume this is the marryanne. 

[judb]

This family has me intrigued!!

Thunda you wrote:
As for JACOB STEELE REECE...his name is derived from Annie's step father Jacob Steel and Reece surname come from Isaac REECE his father. The baby (Flora could have died from many different things.illness/ cot death/ plague/ anything really. I will order the certificate(im a certificate person) too find out. But there is no indication that it is due to being the prodigy of 2 siblings.

And I would fully agree, having just wrtitten out, in order what I could find on this thread.

As for Isaac (aged 10 on arrival in 1839 - see the shipping list I posted)  - his brother's name was Edwin, aged 4 in 1839, not Ebenezeer and I think this is his marriage on NSW BMD
1864  Edwin REECE m Mary Ann DAVIS  reg ORANGE 2754/

So - we still haven't found a birth for Ann(i)e Maddrah, a death for her father Benjamin or a suitable death/divorce for Annie's first husband Isaac REECE which would be between 1862 and 1869 when she married William TOWNSEND.  As I said before - perhaps it was a bigamous marriage as we have the death of baby Flora in Scone 1864 then the marriage in Warialda 1869.

Cheers, Judith

Addition:
The marriage cert of Annie and William TOWNSEND would be worth getting - or re-looking at as it could give info abt Isaac REECE and also another version of Annie's mother's name.  If you haeve it would you mind transcrbing it - or have we already seen it??

[majm]

Hi there,

Should we consider the following UK birth as perhaps Annie's ... I'm not sure ... but...

Hannah MADDRAH, first quarter of 1839, Wakefield, West Riding, West Yorkshire... Volume 22, page 625 or 628...

Its just a thought, and I could be way off track.. but I've not found her birth in NSW at all .....

Cheers,

JM

[judb]

Good one JM but Hannah MADDRA b 1839, Wakefield Yorks is living with parents Robert and Mary in Yorkshire in 1851 and in 1841same family, same address (transcribed as MADDREY though) .  This would appear to be the Hannah you found 

Judith

[majm]

Umm... oh well... I'll keep looking...  I did spot a Benjamin Maddrah with wife Matilda in 1851 in Yorkshire... he was born abt 1806... perhaps they were Annie's paternal grandparents.

Also I've noticed that NSW State Records have changed their website's front page, perhaps they have added more online indexes... I did not find Maddrah last time I searched there.

Like you, I'm rather intrigued by this extended family.


Cheers,

JM