KNAPP, WATTS, REID Families Newport 1860-1900

[rsandes]

Have just started researching following ancestors. Anyone with a connection willing to share any information at all? Have hit something of a brick wall.

Mary Ann Knapp married George Watts 1865 Newport. Her father was Alfred Knapp a master builder in Newport. George Watts father was also named George Watts but was deceased at the time of death, and was formerly a letter carrier.

My Grandmother Elizabeth Louisa Watts (one of Mary Ann Knapp and George Watt's children) was born in the Royal Forest of Dean. I'm a bit confused about this as am not sure if RFD is in England or Wales? Apparently a few other of Watts family were also born in RFD.

Elizabeth Louisa Watts married Thomas Henry Reid in 1906 in Newport, but it appears none of Elizabeth's family was present at the wedding. Her father George Watts is a cabinet maker, and Thomas Reid's father is named George Reid and is a coachman.

Any help whatsoever appreciated.

kind regards

Kate

[wendy47]

Hi Kate

Do you know of this site?  It may be helpful

http://www.forest-of-dean.net/

Wendy

[wendy47]

Hi Kate

1871 Census for 19 Baneswell Road, Newport

Alfred Knapp     44 Head Widower Mason b Sea? Wiltshire
Mary Ann Watts    25 Dau Married b Newport, Mon
Elizabeth Knapp    18 Dau b Newport, Mon
Frederick Knapp    16 Son Mason b Newport, Mon
Lillie Knapp    13 Dau Scholar b Newport, Mon
Jessie Knapp    10 Dau Scholar  b Newport, Mon
Harry Knapp    5 Dau Scholar  b Newport, Mon
George Knapp    3 Grandson  b Newport, Mon
Helena Knapp    1 Granddau b Newport, Mon

 RG10 Piece 5342 Folio 24 Page 4

I am wondering if the grandchildren were Watts but entered as Knapp

Wendy

[wendy47]

Hi Kate

1841 Census for [Little] Somerford, Somerford Parva, Malmesbury, Wiltshire

Daniel Knapp    44 Stone Mason
Ann Knapp    45
Louisa Knapp    17
Alfred Knapp    13
Henry Knapp    11
Edwin Knapp    9
   
All Born in County

HO107 Piece 1181 Book 33 Folio 8 Page 10

Wendy

[wendy47]

Hi
 1851 Census for Stow Hill, St Woollos, Monmouthshire

John Griffiths    29 Head Builder employing 7 masons and 17 men
Mary Griffiths    29
James Stobb    2 1 Mo
Eliza Morgan    13
Alfred Knupp [Knapp] 23 Lodger Mason [Journeyman] b Somerset Euston??
Mary Knupp    25 Wife b Somerset Euston
Mary Ann Knupp    3 Dau b Newport Mon
   
 HO107 Piece 2452 Folio 403 Page 3

I think his birthplace may have been given by someone else who guessed he was born in the same place as his wife.

Wendy

[wendy47]

Hi
1881 Census for 21a Mellon Street, Newport Mon

George Watts     32 Head Carpenter b Newport, Mon
Mary Ann Watts    32 Wife b Newport, Mon
Chas. Henry Watts    13 Son Scholar b Newport, Mon
Celina Watts    11 Dau Scholar b Newport, Mon
Jeffrey Watts    9 Son Scholar b Newport, Mon
Joseph Watts    7 Son Scholar b Newport, Mon
Nathaniel Watts    5 Son Scholar b Newport, Mon
Mary Ann Watts    1 Dau b Newport, Mon
   
RG11 Piece 5263 Folio 81 Page 20

1891 Census for St Woollas, Newport, Monmouthshire

George Watts    44  Cabinet maker b Newport, Monmouthshire
Marga [Mary Ann] Watts    44 Wife b Newport, Monmouthshire
Jeffrey Watts    19 Cabinet maker b Newport, Monmouthshire
Joseph Watts    8 Son Scholar b Newport, Monmouthshire
Nathnal Watts    15 Son Scholar b Newport, Monmouthshire
Mary A Watts    13 Dau Scholar b Newport, Monmouthshire
Alfred Watts    9 Son Scholar b Newport, Monmouthshire
Alexander Watts    5 Son b Newport, Monmouthshire
Elizabeth Watts    3 Dau b Newport, Monmouthshire
David Watts    3/12 Son b Caerlion, Monmouthshire
   
 RG12 Piece 4377 Folio 29 Page 13

Wendy

[wendy47]

Hi

1901 Census for 42 Power Street, Newport, Mon

Marianne Watts     53 Head Nurse/Midwife b Newport
Marianne Watts    22 Dau b Newport
Alexandra Watts    15 Son Bricklayer b Newport
Elizabeth L Watts    13 Dau b Newport
Eva M Watts    11 Dau b Newport
   
RG13 Piece 4956 Folio 50 Page 13

This maybe George's death

 Deaths Sep 1896
Watts    George aged 46 Newport, M.    11a    98

Wendy

[wendy47]

hi

There is this Thomas Henry, not sure if he is yours. Are you sure his father was a Coachman and not a Coalminer?

1881 Census for 12 Wesleyan Row,Bedwellty, Tredegar

George Reed    47 Head Coal Miner b Brynmawr, Brecon
Ann Reed    40 Wife Cwmdu, Brecon
David Reed    17 Son Coal Miner b Tredegar, Mon
Mary Ann Price    16 Step dau b Domestic Servant, Tredegar, Mon
Elizabeth Price    15 Step dau Dressmaker  b Tredegar, Mon
James Reed    13 Son Coal Minerb Tredegar, Mon
Celia Reed    10 Dau b Tredegar, Mon
Alice Reed    9 Dau b Tredegar, Mon
Sarah Reed    6 Dau b Tredegar, Mon
Thomas Henry Reed 3 Son b Pontlottytyn, Glam
Edith Reed     Dau b New Tredegar, Mon
   
RG11 Piece 5244 Folio 70 Page 19 & 20

Looks like George changed his job
1891 Census for Thomas Street, Bedwelty Tredegar, Mon

George Reed    58 Head Grocer b Breconshire Speaks Welsh & Englsih
Ann Reed    50 Wife b Breconshire Speaks Welsh & Englsih
Celia Reed    20 Dau Servant b Monmouthshire Speaks Englsih
Alice Reed    18 Dau Domestic Servant b Monmouthshire Speaks Englsih
Sarah Reed    15 Dau Servant b Monmouthshire Speaks Englsih
Thomas Hy Reed    13 Son Caol Miner b Glamorganshire Speaks Englsih
Methusaleh Evans    26 Lodger Coal Miner
Thomas J Rees    22 Lodger Coal Miner
William C Watkins    21 Lodger Coal Miner
   
 RG12 Piece 4357 Folio 57 Page 38

Wendy

[wendy47]

Hi

In 1901 George 68 is a fruiterer living at 84 Thomas Street Bedwelty with Ann 60.
RG13 Piece 4939 Folio 24 Page 40.

Wendy