James NELSON - COMPLETED

[dalek39]

Have just received documents that tell me James Nelson..No.5835.. was officialy tried in Malta ..G & CT Ml..1859. and sent back to Portland England to wait his transportation... He was sent out to Western Australia on the ship Palmerston , arriving 1861..  His character said V.G.
On the document it states, name and age of wife or next of kin...but this has only 59 7 and underneath this 67..the rest is unreadable..so I dont know what this means.
He recieved a Ticket of leave..16 Feb 1863..and conditional pardon 7 Mar 1867.. It appears he married one week before his release, but worked outside the compound as a Harness Maker, and Saddler..
I also have his certificate of Freedom...unreadable ..Sept.1869..He was married 22 Nov.1869. to Mary Jane Donovan, Perth Congreg.Church..   They had two children in Perth, Mary Jane, born 1872..and Emily Rose..Born 1874..
They left Perth for the UK  on 13 / 1 / 1875.. on the Ship Charlotte Padbury.. Did they go back to England ..or did they stop off at Adelaide..as their 3rd child was born..in Adelaide..Ellen Nelson..b.17 Mar. 1877..which leaves a three year gap from the last child...

I cant find the Charlotte Padbury, or a list of passengers, but I do have that Mary Jane Donovan came to Perth on the ship Hastings inleft England ..Apr.1869..aged 23..Thats all I have at the moment..

[dalek39]

I have just found James Nelson.. born Belfast..Ireland..date not yet known exactly..joined the 3rd Regiment of Foot..2nd Battalion...Royal East Kent Regiment..known as "The Buffs" ..stationed in Malta during 1859. where he was Court Martialed for shooting at his superior officer..sentenced to 10 years, and transported to Western Australia on the ship Palmerston 1861..He was sent to Portland Eng. waiting his transportation date...
He married Mary Jane Donovan in Perth West.Aust..at the Cong.Church. Perth..on 22Nov 1869. having  three children in Perth..one still born..female. 1871...........Mary Jane. b. Perth 1872......
Emily Rose. b. Perth 1874.....then sailed for England 13/1/1875...on the Charlotte Padbury..not sure if this ship went straight to England or stopped in Adelaide on the way..but ...James and Mary had four more children in Adelaide South Australia...Ellen .b. 1877.......Annie . b.1879.........Flora b. 1881.
There was a son born, Henry.. 18th Dec 1887...lived 8 months...died 22 Jul. 1888.
They are both buried with two of their daughters  Ellen...and Mary..at West Terrace Cemetry..together..... His father was a publican, also named James  Nelson.. mother unknown at this stage...

I want to thank all who helped me in this search...so now onto others....

[Glamis]

Well Found Dalek39, sad though but knowing is a strange peace. As you say, moving on ...

[dalek39]

Thanks Glamis...get the vallium out..we are off to track the rest...can you hear the moderators running away...Its them..again.....sorry about that, just my wierd sense of humour.  but..we do appreciate the help..

[Glamis]

Find 'em we shall.

[dalek39]

Yes..I agree with that.
Interesting I have found......James had two sons we knew nothing about apparently...Showed up on his death record...
ie.. James Nelson died 28 Jul.1924..age 83...of heart falure (1 day) and senile decay at his residence In Queen Street Adelaide..South Aust.
Profession....Saddler.
Birthplace..Belfast..
Length of residence in the Commonwealth not known..
Age at marriage about 30yrs.
Total issue..2M..5F..alive..and 1M..deceased.
Informant..A.Wallman..undertaker of Pultney St.Adelaide.
Registered 31 Jul.1924. by Norman Fox..
Entered in District Registry Office...4 Aug.1924..by Max Wilson. District Registra..

Mary Nelson was buried with him in 1930.. also daughter Ellen..1931 and possibly baby son Henry.

[Glamis]

Well found. Spookey old equine theme in those genes again though. Who was Norman Fox? I wonder if he was a son-in-law? Anyway. That'll show up at some point no doubt.

[dalek39]

Glamis   thanks for pointing that out..makes me wonder also..Have to check it out...There is so much with this family that keeps popping up...
Wont be doint it today though..Its Australia Day..holiday..so will get back to this later...

[dalek39]

..I found out that James Nelson, when he died, left two sons as well as 5 daughters.. all alive at the time of his death...
The family were not aware of this, just the girls..is there anywhere online I can go to get some information regarding this...