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Re: Charles Robertson, Monymusk to Montreal
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 25 November 09 15:24 GMT (UK) »
ah, we posted together...yes, this may be the right family then...good start. (hmmm...a lesson to get your information together first next time)   J.J.

I figured there'd be an Alexander ...these last children were awfully young when the parents died... They either had to have been taken in by family or put into orphanages...

Sorry about the muddled order of the information - I couldn't get on the SP yesterday.
Here is a bit more. We know that the Robertson's had family in Quebec waiting for them - so the youngest may have been sent to live with them. Unfortunately we don't know who these relatives were.

Thanks for your help.
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Re: Charles Robertson, Monymusk to Montreal
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 25 November 09 15:29 GMT (UK) »
O.k. here's a start...
Name: Alexander Robertson, b. 1843 Scotland died Dec 3 1916, age  73 years 3 months, Ottawa, Carleton, Ontario
http://search.labs.familysearch.org
here he is in 1901 with wife Sarah M. and his six children...http://www.automatedgenealogy.com/census/ViewFrame.jsp?id=97897&highlight=5
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Re: Charles Robertson, Monymusk to Montreal
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 25 November 09 15:37 GMT (UK) »
Here's Margaret from a gravestone, a teacher's wife...one child...
an actual date of death for Alexander....
In memory of Alexander Robertson sometime farmer Craigearn d. near Montreal Canada 12 may 1847 aged 35; his wife Anne Watt d. on her voyage to Canada 3 May 1846 aged 35; Margaret Ellen Mackie their grandchild b. 2 Nov 1877 – d. Oldtown Schoolhouse, Kennethmont 18 Aug 1884; their son-in-law William Mackie teacher d. Kennethmont 4 Apr 1891 aged 61; his wife Margaret Robertson d. Huntly 17 Oct 1918 aged 79.

http://boards.ancestry.co.uk/localities.britisles.scotland.abd.general/6993/mb.ashx?pnt=1

I'll leave you to it now that you have the right family...as it's not your genealogy. If you do find any information for that researcher, though, do answer  that thread...& link back to this one
 ;D now get to work ...and write some fabulous stuff about this family who went through so much when they first arrived here....J.J.
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Re: Charles Robertson, Monymusk to Montreal
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 25 November 09 15:44 GMT (UK) »
Thanks very much for your help.
It is very much appreciated!  :)
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Re: Charles Robertson, Monymusk to Montreal
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 25 November 09 23:40 GMT (UK) »
The death of Alexander Robertson is in the Drouin Collection but on a different day. The entry says:

Montréal (Presbyterian Saint Andrew)
Alexander Robertson, late of Scotland and of Lo??? Point C E. farmer aged thirty five years died on the eleventh and was buried on the thirteenth day of May One Thousand Eight Hundred and Forty Seven in the presence of us the undersigned
Alex ? D  D ? (presumably the minister)
John Robertson
John Drummond

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Canada: Patterson, Brown, Haidenger/Heidinger, Meyer, Johnston(e), Gorsuch, Kitchin/Kitchen
United States: Patterson, Smith, Brown, Vance, Bower(s), Newberry, Best, Love, Gorsuch
England (Northumberland): Brown, Whitfield, Henderson
Scotland (Glasgow, Edinburgh, Fife, East Lothian): Johnston(e), Bell, Galloway, Campbell, Robertson, Williamson, Thomson, Crawford
Germans from Russia: Haidenger/Heidinger, Meyer, Meach, Lorenz

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Re: Charles Robertson, Monymusk to Montreal
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 26 November 09 00:24 GMT (UK) »
I may have found some of the family together in Montreal on the 1861 census.

Wm Robertson, pattern maker, born Aberdeen, Scotland, religion Church of Scotland, 24, male, single
Margt Robertson, milliner, born Aberdeen, Scotland, religion Church of Scotland, 21, female, single
Nat. Robertson, millwright, born Aberdeen, Scotland, religion Church of Scotland, 19, male, single
Alex Robertson, clerk, born Aberdeen, Scotland, religion Church of Scotland, 17, male, single
John Robertson, clerk, born Aberdeen, Scotland, religion Church of Scotland, 16, male, single
George Clarke, carriage maker, born in Canada, religion Church of England, 23, male, single, not member of family

I can't find Charles or his sister Ann on the 1861 census nor can I find any of them on the 1871 census.

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Canada: Patterson, Brown, Haidenger/Heidinger, Meyer, Johnston(e), Gorsuch, Kitchin/Kitchen
United States: Patterson, Smith, Brown, Vance, Bower(s), Newberry, Best, Love, Gorsuch
England (Northumberland): Brown, Whitfield, Henderson
Scotland (Glasgow, Edinburgh, Fife, East Lothian): Johnston(e), Bell, Galloway, Campbell, Robertson, Williamson, Thomson, Crawford
Germans from Russia: Haidenger/Heidinger, Meyer, Meach, Lorenz

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Re: Charles Robertson, Monymusk to Montreal
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 26 November 09 04:33 GMT (UK) »
Might be just a red herring, 1852 census Que... This couple is too young to have a daughter Margaret's age...Wondering if he's a brother to Alexander?... but Not shown as born Scotland   Not sure what CB F means... I suppose it could be County Born? or Cape Breton...in which case I"m way off base
http://www.automatedgenealogy.com/census52/SplitView.jsp?id=41352

Hmmm. he seems to fit the posting I linked you to....so he could well be! From the IGI

         
NATHANAEL ROBERTSON  Christened April 21 1826 / Auchterless, Aberdeen, Scotland
Parents...WILLIAM ROBERTSON & JANE DONALD
 
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Re: Charles Robertson, Monymusk to Montreal
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 26 November 09 04:34 GMT (UK) »
Nathaniel seems to be in Ottawa in 1881 / Wellington Ward, Ottawa, Carleton, Ontario
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/Census/household_record.asp?HOUSEHOLD_CODE=1881CN_543040&HOUSEHOLD_SUB=1&frompage=99

( sibling to Chas... Alexander lived in Ottawa, Ont. next Province to Que.)

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added:  Yippee, three houses over from him Charles' brother Alexander...He's a merchant!
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/Census/household_record.asp?HOUSEHOLD_CODE=1881CN_543043&frompage=99
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Nathaniel in 1901 says date of immigration 1845 - b. April 14th 1826
http://www.automatedgenealogy.com/census/ViewFrame.jsp?id=97898&highlight=41

Here is Charles' sibling Alexander, in 1871... and I think the Niel may also be Nathaniel, as he's a merchant.
Now is that your John, as a teacher? ( No wait, I found him as a merchant in 1881 Quebec, didn't I?)
 http://www.rootschat.com/links/07jx/   
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Re: Charles Robertson, Monymusk to Montreal
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 26 November 09 05:26 GMT (UK) »
So here are prospects to be aunts & uncles, although some say mother Jean Donald (interchangeable with Jane)
IGI extracted with submissions in blue:
Father Alexander -  Christened April 16th 1812 Tullynessle And Forbes And Kearn, Aberdeen
John b. March 10 1814
Jane - June 11, 1816   

unamed male- b. April -Christened May 8th 1818 Auchindoir And Kearn, Aberdeen
Elspet - April 12th, 1818
Mary - b. May 28th - Christened June 2nd , 1822     "           " 
William - Born & Christened March 22nd , 1824   "             "
Nathanael -  Christened April 21 st , 1826 Auchterless, Aberdeen,
Margaret -   b. March 9th, 1828  Christened March 11, 1828     "                       "
James - b.  July 20th, 1830 Monymusk
Robert - b.  July 20th 1832 Monymusk

   
 
still I could only find some of them as maybes in 1852 with no children in household that might be the orphaned children.

A Robert Robertson whose parents were Wm & Jane married an Isabella ( Mathesore?) probably Matheson in Ontario...Not sure if that helps anything other than another uncle may have been in Ontario ( there is also this one who came over in 1846 as well, a coincidence, I suppose http://www.automatedgenealogy.com/census/ViewFrame.jsp?id=33953&highlight=46)

Under the same Parish files as Alexander's wedding there is
a Mary Robertson married a JAMES MCKERRON in 1845
a Janet married a ROBERT REID in 1833
a John married a  MARGARET THOMSON in 1836

For those wondering, I asked, & there are no extra marks for the searching out of information, but only for the written work, so that's why I am back helping...Plus Windsor87 is going to answer that thread with a link to this one, so that the tie in can be shown.
Besides, he lives in Fraserburgh...my grandfather was born there...need I say more?? I might just give him a shovel one day to help me dig up some roots or branches...
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