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WHEELER decendants - hunter valley
« on: Tuesday 24 November 09 03:50 GMT (UK) »
I'm trying to contact anyone out there in cyber space who descends from the 1836 marriage of John WHEELER and Maria Ann(e) Dottin HOGG who married at Carrington NSW (Australian Agricultural Co property in Hunter Valley NSW).

They had 8 children who all survived to adulthood - so there should be lots of you out there. John was born in London, Eng (according to his death certificate) and Maria was born circa 1811 in Dartmouth, Devon.

At this stage I know very little about John's origins.

However, Maria promises to be interesting as the DOTTIN connection of her name is well documented going back to the 16th/17th century. How she links in to the wider family I am not certain at this stage.

Her grandmother Sarah DOTTIN married George PAYNE @ Dartmouth in 1766.

Their daughter Elizabeth PAYNE married Matthew HOGG, from the kingdom of Ireland and a member of the 6th Regiment of DRAGOONS. Elizabeth dies in 1828. I have no idea of Matthew's fate at this stage.

Maria arrives in NSW in 1836 and marries later in the year to John. It is possible that a link exists between Maria and the Rev William M COWPER as they were at the same parish, St Petrox of Dartmouth, at the same time. COWPER performs the marriage of Maria and John and baptises their children.


Cheers,

Helen

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Re: WHEELER decendants - hunter valley
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 24 November 09 06:26 GMT (UK) »
Hi Helen

Are you looking for help with further information about John Wheeler, or just to contact other descendants?

Any further possible information you have from his certificates would help us: eg date of birth, date of arrival in Australia, was he a convict?, names of children etc.

Judith  :)
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Re: WHEELER decendants - hunter valley
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 26 November 09 00:56 GMT (UK) »
Dear Judith,

Thanks for the prompt reply. Yes I'm looking for both, i.e. information about John and looking to search out his descendents in Aust.

If you cross reference this page with DOOLAN and MANNIX on the rootschat site I have typed out more of his tree. Sorry to be a pain about it but I don't have the internet at home and have to make trips to our local library. Next time I'll type out more on what I have about him.

I have no idea if he is a convict or not. His death certificate says he arrived around 1836. I originally thought that he was John WHEELER aka MAHER. But MAHER was Irish and my John WHEELER was a Londoner. Both, however, seemed to be floating around AACo estates at the same time. 

I have newspaper entries from the Maitland papers (on-line) and it seems he was a man with a temper, and paid the penalty with fines one of which was 30pounds which I imagine would have been crippling. Maria seems to have gained the same amount from debts owed, but whether or not she was able to collect I don't know.

I descend from John and Maria's second son Henry WHEELER who died leaving behind a young family - descend from his youngest child Mary Lousia WHEELER (my grandfather's mother). 

WHEELER documentation seems to be reasonably straight forward (so far), it's when you hit the DOOLANs that I'm having problems. Part of which is that I live inter-state, but hope to go to NSW in the near future.

Unfortunately my family (i.e. aunts/cousins etc) know next to nothing about this side of their family - nothing like a good mystery!!!!! I'm at the beginning with this family and it's only through the internet that I even able to start the search. So what I have is very basic. I originally looked at doing my side of the family (have done 80% of my husband's which has nothing to do with NSW) about 15yrs ago, but gave up as too hard. So I'd be greateful for any assistance with this illusive (to me) family.


Cheers,

Helen