Helen Janet and Rebecca Robertson 1851 Census

[Rae33]

Hello Everyone

Could somebody please help or advise me with the 1851 census.  Searching for Helen (16) Janet (14) and Rebecca Robertson ( daughters of William and Elizabeth Robertson (maiden name Grozet/Grossart).

In 1841 Wm and Elizabeth with Helen, Janet and son Alexander aged 2 (our great-grandfather) were living at 1 West Brae Paisley.  The family separated in 1844 and Elizabeth and the four children were living at 27 Queen Street Paisley.  In 1851 William and Alexander (12) were living at 33 Castle Street Paisley with Wm's parents and siblings.

I have found two girls - Helen (17) and Rebecca ( on Scotlands People
Paisley High Church Renfrew GROS data 573/00 027/00 024 but there is no image available.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Rae

[Rae33]

Sorry for the smileys - should read aged 8 for Rebecca.

Regards...Rae

[MonicaL]

Hi Rae

This looks like Rebecca and sister Helen in 1851:

Agness Groset 52, White Seam Sa(e?)wer b. Ireland
Helen Robertson 17, granddaughter b. Paisley
Rebecca Robertson 8, granddaughter b. Paisley

Address: 116 George Street, Paisley High Church

Monica 

[Rae33]

Hello Monica

Thank you so much for this information - they are definitely our two girls.
The grandmother fits in well as William and Elizabeth were married in January 1929 and they had a daughter Agnes born in March 1830.  She is not with the family in 1841, 1844 or 1851 so I think she must have died before 1841.  Elizabeth Grozet may have died before 1849 as, if I am on the right track and not off on another tangent as I often am, William remarried in 1849.

Your help is most appreciated.

Regards....Rae

[Rae33]

Hi Monica
Could you please check to see if Agness Groset's marital status is shown on 1851?

I found an Agness Grosart aged 45 female servant at West bay Inverkip Renfrew in 1841 and she is working with a Barbara Robertson 19 female servant who would be her daughters' sister-in-law.

I am trying to check if Groset/Grosart is Agness's married or maiden name.  I know the Scots women revert back to their maiden name when they are widowed but not sure if that is the case with the Irish women.

Thanks.....Rae

[MonicaL]

Hi Rae

The 1851 census entry comes from a transcript that does not include marital status unfortunately. I also checked FreeCen to see whether this entry was included for 1851 but it is not as they only have Paisley in 1841. The only way for you to check on Agnes' marital status would be to look at the original image on Scotlands People.

Monica

Added:  Just remembered, we can't look at the original on SP can we!

[Rae33]

Hi Monica

Thanks Monica, what a shame.  Never mind, I am lucky to have the info you gave me.

Many thanks....Rae

[Rae33]

Two daughters of William and Elizabeth Robertson (nee Grozet)
Helen Robertson born 26 August 1835 Paisley Renfrew and
Rebecca Robertson born c1842 Paisley Renfrew COMPLETED.
They had moved to Glasgow Lanarkshire by 1855 and both married and had families and died in Glasgow area.

Still searching for middle daughter Janet Robertson born c1837 Paisley. I think mother Elizabeth Grozet died before 1849 as father William remarried that year.

I have 1851 SP image for a Janet Robertson (16) High Church Paisley 573/00 011/00 016 and she is lodging with George Morn, clock (or cloak) maker, his wife and daughters and the daughters and Janet are power loom workers. There is no street address at all on this page - can anyone help with the previous page?

Also have a death record 1 July 1908 for Janet Robertson Cloakmaker (70 years) died at Hawkhead Asylum Paisley, unfortunately parents unknown, which fits.

I'm finding it strange that the grandmother Agness Groset was caring for two of the three girls, and my research shows Helen and Rebecca as being very close, living in same areas and naming their children for each other, so maybe Janet died before 1851.

Regards....Rae

[MonicaL]

Hi Rae

On Ancestry, the address is showing as 74 High Street, Paisley High Church. There are 37 entries showing up at that address with a number of different households there.

Monica