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Howlett Family Norfolk (please help?)
« on: Friday 20 November 09 10:50 GMT (UK) »
Hi, i am researching the Howlett family in Norfolk but am at a complete standstill, can anybody help?
I started with My great grandad Ernest Howlett b 1889 norfolk
(based on info from my dad) i purchased his marriage certifcate
...married Mabel May Fiddy 1915 Norwich Norfolk (aged 26)
Now the marriage certificate says the father is John Howlett,
       I have no age or birth year for him, but i found on 1901 census that he is married to Georgiana...
When it going back to the 1891 census i found the correct family as Ernest was 2 then... (but i don't have the details of this census)
       I cannot pinpoint the correct John Howlett in 1881 .. there are quite a few by this name in Norfolk.
Also there are a couple of listing for a John married to Georgiana (Georgeanna)  :-\
all of similiar age....

I hope this makes sense
I hope someone can help ???

thanks :)
Tracy

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Re: Howlett Family Norfolk (please help?)
« Reply #1 on: Friday 20 November 09 11:07 GMT (UK) »
in 1915 what occupation(s) are given.
What names witness?

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Re: Howlett Family Norfolk (please help?)
« Reply #2 on: Friday 20 November 09 11:18 GMT (UK) »
In 1901 John & Georgiana's Ernest is 22y old, so not your man.

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Re: Howlett Family Norfolk (please help?)
« Reply #3 on: Friday 20 November 09 11:20 GMT (UK) »
Hi Pauline,
the witnesses names are William Howlett and Lily Howlett
the Occupation for Ernest Howlett is 'Milkman'
John Howlett is 'Farm Bailiff '
Jonathan Fiddy is 'Farm Laborer'
(My dad has always said that the 'Fiddys' were the farm Bailiffs) so maybe the two fathers occupations got mixed up ???


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Re: Howlett Family Norfolk (please help?)
« Reply #4 on: Friday 20 November 09 11:22 GMT (UK) »
i found in 1901 census two john howletts both with wives georgianas and both with sons ernest, but one ernest is 12 the other 22, the 12 year old is my ernest...
but this is why it gets confusing going further back....

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Re: Howlett Family Norfolk (please help?)
« Reply #5 on: Friday 20 November 09 11:25 GMT (UK) »
Georgiana was married before. And in one Census her children are listed as Hardiman and the other as Howlett.

Marriage;
Georgiana HARDIMAN
December 1883
Norwich 4b 424
On same page John HOWLETT
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Cummins, Miskelly(IRELAND + NZ) ,Leggett (SFK + NFK ENGLAND + NZ),Purdy ( NBL ENGLAND + NZ ), Shaw YKS, LANCs + NZ), Holdsworth(LINCS +LANCS + NZ), Moloney, Dean, Fitzpatrick, ( County Down,IRE) Newby(NBL.ENG, Costello(IRE), Ivers, Murray(IRE),Reay(NBL.ENG) Reid (BERW.SCOTLAND)

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Re: Howlett Family Norfolk (please help?)
« Reply #6 on: Friday 20 November 09 11:27 GMT (UK) »
LOOK at the 1901 census. (with the 12-y-old)

There are STEP-SONS with the family, so you should be able to ID the name Georgiana married under...
(like wot Trish did)!
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Re: Howlett Family Norfolk (please help?)
« Reply #7 on: Friday 20 November 09 11:34 GMT (UK) »
I and only seeing a Delia Hardiman for 1901.....

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Re: Howlett Family Norfolk (please help?)
« Reply #8 on: Friday 20 November 09 11:35 GMT (UK) »
Hi Tracy,

Using a bit of logic the witness at the Marriage is probably Ernests brother William.

If you search;
www.freebmd.org.uk

Look for ;
Marriage
Howlett, William
Norfolk
Date range, 1901-1915 (between 1901 census where is is single and 1915 where he could be married to a Lily)
Spouses first name, Lily

Trish :)
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