Father's details on Death Cert & Middle Names in Official Documents

[Quilter Fran]

Q 1, When the father's occupation is listed in a marriage cert, can we presume he is still alive at time of marriage?
Q 2, Are middle names left out of documents such as in listings of workhouse inmates?

Thanks,
Fran

[Lady Di]

Hi Fran,

To put it simply - NO to both questions. 

I have a father name mentioned on a marriage cert, with his occupation listed, and I have the father's death cert that predates the marriage.

I also have workhouse records where a middle name has been recorded.

Don't think that's what you wanted to hear though!

Di

[Finder]

on my grandfathers marriage certificate it has both of the fathers names but one of them has "Deceased" in brackets under the name, which was quite a surprise due to the fact very little is known about this fellow

bit of trivia, on my grandfathers will it has another middle name I never knew he had

James

[charlotteCH]

Fran... No to both, as Di says.

You may find the father named and he may be alive or dead.

charlotte

[Roobarb]

My gt grandfather was given a middle name when he was christened (his grandfather's name) but I have not found any evidence of it being used after that - he was married twice but it wasn't on either marriage cert, or on his death cert. I think it's just pot luck whether middle names are used in official records.

[carol8353]

I think it all depends if the vicar asked the question " fathers name occupation and is he still alive"......or if the couple actually said my fathers name is *** but he's dead.

If no one mentioned anything then the vicar would just presume.

Carol