Look up please !!

[cymbeline]

I've had a fascinating e-mail today from the Great War Forum: Fromelles Project who think my great Grand Mother may have had a son who died in action in the 1st world war.  They are still trying to identify the remains of the last 334 men.  They said their records show that sometimes she was listed as coady in the census' and sometimes as Grady.  Possible as there are only 2 letters difference and 'C'c ould be mistaken for a 'G' if handwriting isn't clear. 
My records show my G.M Annie Coady was born in 1880 in Garston by Liverpool
My question pls could someone let me know the details of Annie Grady born also 1880 in Lancashire on the 1892 cencus, especially who is listed as her family.
Also has anybody heard before of such a difference in names and also of the Fromelles Project?
Thanks for all your help - I've met some great minds who have worked things out sooo quick in the past !
Jan

[cymbeline]

I've just noticed i've posted on the worng board.  Apologies !!

[emmsthheight]

Hi

I think this is them:

At 10 Bridge Lane, Garston:

Richard Grady (Brick layer's labourer) and Ann both aged 51 born Ireland with children:
Ellen, 20 dressmaker born Liverpool
Margaret 15, Annie 11, scholar   and James 6, scholar, all b Garston Lancs

and lodgers James McGill 24 and Thomas Regan 18, both bricklayers b Ireland.

It's Grady but looks really like Coady and Garston is indexed Aurster for Annie's b place despite them being in Garston.  I'm sure it's Garston but open to opinion.

By the way, I don't know this projext, but certainly the variation in name is not at all unusual - especially when you look at the original - although I might have seen Goady but not Coady when you enlarge it!

Best wishes

Emms

[emmsthheight]

Hi

See what you think.  Just the small parts in question copied.

On the other hand I can't see your Coady's anywhere in that case, unless they're really badly indexed.

What an enthralling letter though.  A sad beginning, but I hope you get to the bottom of it!

Don't seem to be able to attach the imsge st the moment, but I'll try later.

Best wishes

Emms

[millymcb]

Hi Jan


Fomelles has been big news this year.   There are many posts on Rootschat about it.  If you do a search for Fromelles in the World War One section of the Armed Forces board you will see them all.

Also here are some other links
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6734385.stm
http://www.cwgc.org/fromelles/

Also this thread on roots lists British names - one of which is a private Grady  - but possiblty not your chap

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,410101.0.html

A google search on Fromelles will also bring up a lot more info if you want to read more..

Milly
 

[cymbeline]

Hi Emms and Milly,

Thanks for your replies.  I found my Coady family on the 1881 Census in Vulcan St. Garston.  This consisted of Richard and Ann (Parents) followed by Annie, Ellen Katherine and Margaret. 

This ties up with the 1892 Census that Emms found for me where the family is listed as Grady, only on this one there is a James aged 6. whom i've never heard of before. 

It's this George Andrew Grady that must have died at the Battle of Fromelles in 1916.  He is the one listed Milly! 

He was my Grandfathers Uncle in that case.  So today I found a new relative, but it was tinged with sadness to realise he died so young on the battlefield.  After four girls he may also have been the only son in the family too !

I shall be in touch with the War Graves Commission tomorrow and see what happens.  They're doing a great job!

Best wishes and thanks again.  Jan

[millymcb]

Hi Jan

Glad to be of help - just a couple of things..

Firstly the census was 1891 and not 1892.

Secondly, I am a bit confused as to where George Andrew Grady fits in.   Are you saying you think he is really called Coady? And that he was younger brother to Ellen, Katherine, Margaret, Annie (and James)??

Have you found a George with the family in 1901 and 1911? I cannot see him anywhere.   

What I did find was a birth for a George Andrew Grady in West Derby in 1896. 
Dec Q 1896   W. Derby    8b   267

This fits in well with someone who died in 1916 - but shows him registered as Grady not Coady.

Perhaps I have misunderstood something or missed some info in your post

Milly

[cymbeline]

Hi Milly,

I've copied and pasted the mail I received.  Perhaps that may help you somewhat. I feel that Coady was falsely transcribed as Grady in 1891 (confirmed by the presence of Ellen and Catherine).  I also thought that James could be a short version of George ??  Jan

Re: Pte. George Andrew Coady/Grady (267165) 2/7th R.Warks. Regt. Killed at the Battle of Fromelles in July 1916.

I am one of a group of researchers based around the Great War Forum: Fromelles Project. http://1914-1918.invisionzone.com/forums/index.php?showforum=90 Our aim is to make contact with as many relatives of the missing soldiers as possible and to encourage them to participate in the Ministry of Defence (MoD) / Commonwealth War Graves Commision (CWGC) DNA testing programme to identify the remains of the soldiers who have been exhumed:

From our researches, this man may be a relative of yours. Our line of reasoning is as follows. His mother is given as Annie Grady, b Garston Liverpool circa 1880. Annie is listed on various censuses as Coady and as Grady.

[emmsthheight]

Hi all

This looks promising!  Thank you for getting in touch.  It looks as though this is the right man.  I wondered if the enumeraot had transcribed the name incorrectly from his own notes, where the two names might also look the same?

I don't know if they did a house schedule like later, but even if not they might have their own notes.

Also, can we get any more records where the name is written, especially either with his army number or by hand - newspaper report of the death, aid to the family, marriage/witness at a marriage, absent voters lists, siblings army records, birth/ baptism records for siblings etc?

Just ideas!

Best wishes

Emms