Mordecai Andrews and Elizabeth Rutt

[janet lesley]

Hi, I am the Australian end of Mordecai`s family. My connection is Rev Edward Andrews independant minister of the Beresford Chapel Romford .His parents were Mordecai Andrews 1749-1799 and Elizabeth Rutt  m. 1780  . Edward m. Elizabeth Honor Symons,1811.  Mordecais children were, Mordecai ,George (died young),John,Eliza (emigrated to America) Edward (my ancester) Charles ,Alfred (died baby) Harriet m. G.Wray stonemason, Charlotte m. T.Wood Solicitor in Walworth, Emily m. Rev William Temple,and Frederick (emigrated to America).   Edward was the father of 12 children, Edward William (emigrated to Australia),Frederick George (emigrated to Australia)my ancester , Eliza m. Charles Orme distiller, Charlotte died unmarried, Louisa, Marianne, Adolphus ,Emily Augusta m Coventry Patmore (poet) Georgiana M. George Patmore, Augustus, Lionel (died baby)and Clarence (died baby.  I would love to hear from anyone who can add to the list ,especially from Mordecai back

[diddymiller]

Hi and welcome to RC.

You don't say where in England the family come from, but this marriage is (extracted = from records) on IGI:

Mordecai Andrews = Elizabeth Rutt  8/2/1780  st Andrew by the Wardrobe, london

there is also some other submitted info (needs checking) with Mordecais parents:

www.familysearch.org

Diddy

[sillgen]

Hi Janet and welcome to rootschat
Are you trying to link into a previous post?    Click on the link below which will take you to one about this family and then click reply at the bottom to add to it.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,299644.0.html

Regards
Andrea

[janet lesley]

Hi, I have just found in "The History of Coggeshall in Essex" a Thomas Andrews who owned a half share of tithes in Coggleshall in the 1600`s ,could this be the father of Mordecai 1st? There is a baptism of  Mordecai  29.4.1731 in Kent with Thomas Andrews and Margaret as parents , I dont think this one fits. Any thuoghts? There  is also mention of a John Andrews and a Richard Andrews , all in Coggeshall ,Essex .

[brownsfan]

I found a website that says that the Elizabeth Rutt that Married Rev. Mordecai Andrews II was the granddaughter of John mason II, son of John Mason (A  non-conformist minister and Poet).

"Revd Mordecai Andrews I (c1715-49) probably succeeded Thomas Shepherd as independent minister in Bocking (Braintree, Essex) on the latter's death in 1739.  In 1743 he was brought in as a 'young man' to take over a moribund congregation in Petticoat St, London, and expanded the congregation so much that they took over bigger premises in Artillery Row.

Revd Mordecai Andrews II (1740-c1819) was christened at Bocking Independent Church (where Thomas Shepherd was minister from 1700 to 1739) on 22 August 1740, the son of Mordecai Andrews I.  He became minister of the independent church in nearby Great Coggeshall, probably being the immediate successor of Henry Peyto.  His wife was John Mason II's granddaughter, who was probably called Elizabeth Rutt."

http://www.parishes.oxford.anglican.org/water-stratford/stg_mason.html

[janet lesley]

Thanks for that info , I am looking for Mordecai 1st parents, or his wife Sarah Fann`s family.  Janet

[brownsfan]

Sorry I dont have anything on his Parents. Who do you have as the mother of Mordecai Andrews II? Was she Sarah Maydman or Sarah Fann. It seems likely that it was Sarah Maydman to me but I have seen some conflicting info. Here is what I have.


Mordecai Andrews I 

Born abt. 1716

Married 1st Sarah Maydman date

Mordecai Andrews II was born in 1738

Married 2nd   SARAH FANN    23 MAR 1746     Saint Benet Pauls Wharf, London, London, England

Death                    Feb. 16, 1749-50

Sources:
http://books.google.com/books?id=mtZbAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA120&dq=%22Mordecai+andrews%22&num=8&client=internal-uds&source=uds#v=onepage&q=%22Mordecai%20andrews%22&f=false

LDS - Computer printout of London, St. Benet Pauls Wharf, London, England

http://books.google.com/books?id=pFsUAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA424&dq=%22Mordecai+Andrews%22&lr=&ei=1ZIOS_SvF57uMtfNwcAL#v=onepage&q=%22Mordecai%20Andrews%22&f=false



MORDECAI ANDREWS II               
    Birth:    22 DEC 1738     

    Christening:    22 AUG 1740     Independent, Bocking, Essex, England


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Authors    Independent Church (Bocking, Essex) (Main Author)


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[janet lesley]

hi, I am a bit worried about which Sarah is correct.  On the family tree I have compiled by an unknown author,it is Sarah Fann with no date, on a tree done by Mordecai 2nd `s daughter`s  family it is Sarah Maydman  b.1718 .This would fit better with the birth of the children, and if it is Sarah Fann ,Mordecai died 4 years after they were married .Did they have children? I don`t see any evidence for 2 marriages. There other Mordecai Andrews  so I need to be sure I have the right one.At this moment I am going with Sarah Maydman. So are the children  Mordecai 2nd, Mary and Hannah???

[argentina]

Hi,  from the web site

surman.english.qmul.ac.uk

looking for Rev Samuel Douglas, it states that he married the widow of Mordecai Andrews who died in 1801 ................


Argentina x