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William Neasmith - Chaneyfield Mill
« on: Monday 16 November 09 00:35 GMT (UK) »
Looking for information on William Neasmith
Born 1796 in Glasgow
Died 1842 in Manchester

He apparently worked at Chaneyfield Mill, and was so respected by is workmates that upon his death a monument was erected in tribute to him.

If anybody has any information on him, his family or his work at the mill it would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks

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Re: William Neasmith - Chaneyfield Mill
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 17 November 09 13:30 GMT (UK) »
Hi there,

Could this be his marriage?

http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk

William Naismith & Christan Spalding, Salford (registry office or registrar attended)
Lancashire bmd ref SAL/1/21
or GRO ref: Salford 3rd quarter 1938, vol 20 page 661

On the 1841 census Christian Naismith age 25, born Scotland, is listed at Mount Place, Salford Greengate district, with children John age 2 years and Alexander 2 months, but no sign of William (Ref HO107/585 book 6).

Haven't found the mill yet.  Could I ask - where did the date of death came from? Only there's nothing showing up on the Free BMD site for him, and its supposed to be virtually complete now.

Hope we can help
 :) Barbara

LANCS:  Greenwood, Greenhalgh, Fishwick, Berry,
CHES/DERBYS:  Vernon
YORKS/LINCS: Watson, Stamford, Bartholomew,
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Re: William Neasmith - Chaneyfield Mill
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 17 November 09 13:51 GMT (UK) »
Posibly not the same person in the marriage, as I've just found William alive and with Christian on the Scotland 1851 census... sorry  :-[

Barbara
LANCS:  Greenwood, Greenhalgh, Fishwick, Berry,
CHES/DERBYS:  Vernon
YORKS/LINCS: Watson, Stamford, Bartholomew,
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Re: William Neasmith - Chaneyfield Mill
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 17 November 09 14:12 GMT (UK) »
was it a textile mill?

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Re: William Neasmith - Chaneyfield Mill
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 17 November 09 17:07 GMT (UK) »
Hi Was the mill definitely in Lancashire?

I tried Googling and all thee places with similar names were in Derbyshire.  Although I guess your censuses are for Lancashire.  Just a bit puzzled that's all.

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Re: William Neasmith - Chaneyfield Mill
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 17 November 09 17:28 GMT (UK) »
Cannot find a mill of that name either (I did wonder, could it be Castlefield or Chapel Field?)

Nor can I find a death in or around 1842 for Neasmith or 'soundex' versions of the name, in Manchester o anywhere else.  Soundex gives you Nugent for some reason!

There is however a birth on Scotlands People:
3rd September 1796 in Glasgow, William Naismith, son of William Naismith and Mary McNeiledge.

 :) Barbara



LANCS:  Greenwood, Greenhalgh, Fishwick, Berry,
CHES/DERBYS:  Vernon
YORKS/LINCS: Watson, Stamford, Bartholomew,
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: William Neasmith - Chaneyfield Mill
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 18 November 09 21:40 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for your help guys, but i am beginning to wonder if the source i got the original death and monument details from was unreliable. I and another of his descendants that i am in contact with him have been searching for his death details at around this time for a while now and have come up with nothing.
I do believe the birth details that Barbara found are correct. His parents were William Neasmith and Margaret McNeiledge. However he married Margaret Murray in glasgow in 1819.

This is the inscription i have

Sacred
to the Memory of
WILLIAM NEASMITH
late Manager of
Chaneyfield Mills
who died this 14th day of January
1842
Aged 46 Years

This Monument is erected by the workers
as a mark of their respect to his just &
humane conduct while amongst them
He was
Beloved by his friends and esteemed by all

I do know that he did die before 1848 because at this time his widowed wife and four of their children immigrated to Australia.

Thanks again for all your help, I'll keep looking.

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Re: William Neasmith - Chaneyfield Mill
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 18 November 09 23:18 GMT (UK) »
One thing that occurs to me is that lots of people get Lancashire and Lanarkshire mixed up in spelling, its easily done after all. So could be that William was in Scotland all along?

Possible family here on the 1841 Scotland census, at Sandy Fold, Dumbarton Rd, Barony, Lanarkshire. Seem to prefer the 'Naismith' spelling over here!:
William Naismith, 40, power loom weaver
Margaret Naismith, 40
Mary Naismith, 20
Margaret Naismith, 15
William Naismith, 15
Eliza Naismith, 10
Agnes Naismith, 8
Helen Naismith, 5

It might be worth asking on the Rootschat Lanarkshire board if anyone knows of a 'Chaneyfield' mill?

 :) Barbara
LANCS:  Greenwood, Greenhalgh, Fishwick, Berry,
CHES/DERBYS:  Vernon
YORKS/LINCS: Watson, Stamford, Bartholomew,
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Re: William Neasmith - Chaneyfield Mill
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 19 November 09 02:29 GMT (UK) »
Hi
That was good thinking Barbara!  Looks promising!

I gather that wonderful detailed inscription doesn't have a place name on?

Good luck!

Emms
Hoey : Louth, Dublin, Lancashire,
Diggle: Pendleton Lancashire,
Stickley: Dorset, Lancashire
Bockmann, Boedemann etc Artist, Europe and London

English Merchants in Brazil and Portugal especially Carruthers family

1st Battalion Connaught rangers WW1

Website:  Look  out for new website coming soon to replace Fells and Seas