William Neasmith - Chaneyfield Mill

[nic82au]

It is possible that he died in Scotland and his coworkers in Lancashire erected the monument in honour of him.
I am quite sure he worked in both scotland and England as he managed a textile mill.

Thanks Barbara, this is the family in the 1841 census!

[Babsneigh]

Hi,
William Neasmith was my great great uncle. I was just trying to work out the inscription on his memorial (I have a post card of it) when i saw this message requesting information.
Yes, he is the man in the 1841 census. The Neasmith's varied the spelling of their name quite often. After William died, his wife Margaret and Margaret(Jun), William (Jun), Elizabeth and Agnes came  to Australia. Their daughter Mary married John McKinlay and they brought out my grandfather with them to Australia. He was aged 9 years at the time. Their descendants are in various parts of Australia and I have met some of them.
I'm glad he was such an esteemed man. I'd love more information on the mill.
I do have a lot of information on their family and some of it has been placed on web sites e.g. Alan Patterson's.           Babsneigh

[nic82au]

Hi,
William Neasmith was my great great uncle. I was just trying to work out the inscription on his memorial (I have a post card of it) when i saw this message requesting information.
Yes, he is the man in the 1841 census. The Neasmith's varied the spelling of their name quite often. After William died, his wife Margaret and Margaret(Jun), William (Jun), Elizabeth and Agnes came  to Australia. Their daughter Mary married John McKinlay and they brought out my grandfather with them to Australia. He was aged 9 years at the time. Their descendants are in various parts of Australia and I have met some of them.
I'm glad he was such an esteemed man. I'd love more information on the mill.
I do have a lot of information on their family and some of it has been placed on web sites e.g. Alan Patterson's.           Babsneigh

Is the memorial definately in Manchester?

[emmsthheight]

Ho Babsneigh

Welcome to Rootschat and thank you for telling about your family's relationship to William.  Maybe we can help you with your research too,

That sounds an exciting lead!  Are there any clues on the postcard, like who it was printed/photographed by?  Where?

Is there are back ground in the photo?  Even the tiniest bit might jog someone's memory!

What style is the stone, and what material?  That may give clues as top background and/or location.  Eg Crucifix, heavy scrolls and symbols, black, slate, etc?

I don't know how you'd feel about showing us the photo, but it might ring a bell with someone!

Just some ideas!

Welcome again to Rootschat!

Best wishes

Emms

[Babsneigh]

Hi everyone,
I just tried to send a reply with the photo of the monument but I don't know if I did!
Any clues on how to attach a photo?
Anyway in that reply I mentioned that I always thought the monument was in Manchester and that he died in Manchester. I also mentioned that William's son named his property in Temora NSW, "Daisy Hill" and as i believe that there is a Daisy Hill in Manchester that they might have lived there and maybe the monument is in a cemetery there.
I will try and contact his descendants in Temora NSW by phone and see what they know which may shed some light on the Monument.
Babsneigh

[emmsthheight]

Hi Babsneigh

Great to hear back from you.

The house name sounds fascinating!

As for attaching, here are my clues, but you might get an expert with real  instructions.

Main thing is you have to get the file small anough to fit on Rootschat.  Will check!

Also small enough in width/height not to stretch the page to Australia!

On your photoediting software, use File then Save for web and if there's a choice, low resolution or similar. 

Save in an easy to find place with an obvious name eg. desktop and WNStoneWeb.

On the reply page on Rootschat,

finish the reply, then below, press "Attach Image etc"

Press browse and click on the appropriate file.

It should load unless your file is still too big.  You won't see your photo in your reply page, but the image will come up when you go to the board.

If the file is too big, you just have to go back  and open it, and change size,

Modified: The size is given: Max 500kb

Good luck!

Emms

[Barbara.H]

Welcome to rootschat from me too Bobsneigh 

The other thing about adding pictures is, I think you have to post a minimum number of messages before you can attach photos to your posts. We'll just have to chat for a bit until you get the go ahead! I think its only about four or five posts, then the option to attach an image should appear at the bottom of the Message window.  As Emms says there is a size restriction but there is guidance on the 'How to use Rootschat' section I think.

Daisy Hill, that's interesting - out towards Bolton/Westhoughton I think?  There is a train station out that way called Daisy Hill.  I've searched & searched for William's death and it doesn't seem to be on the English BMDs at all.. wondering if his family were unaware of the need to register the death in 1842. as in Scotland it was not compulsory until 1855.

Intriguing story - I hope your rellies in NSW can come up with something

  Barbara

[Babsneigh]

Hi all,
The Monument to William Neasmith is a column with a decorated urn on the top, set on two large blocks of stone on which the inscription in engraved. Around it is a single chain fence hung from blocks of stone set in the ground at the four corners.
The post card (which is very old and faded) was produced by The York Studios, Temora. I think that it is a photograph of a drawing (etching) of the monument.
I suggest you contact the Manchester Historical Society to see if they have a record of monuments.
I think that it is quite possible that his family did not register his death.
Remember to check under the various spellings of his surname - Neasmith, Naismith etc.
I'm interested in any detail about the mill - owners, size, location etc  I'm writing a children's story about life in the cotton mills in those days and would love to tie it in with family history.
Babsneigh.

[dijaks]

Hi all,
I too am a descendant of William Naismith/Neasmith and his daughter Elizabeth.  I have been reading your postings with great interest as I have never been able to verify his death either, although I am sure he did die in 1842.

I find it hard to believe that he died in Manchester as he is mentioned on the Internet in Scottish Parliamentary Papers as being the manager of a weaving factory belonging to the Lancefield Spinning Company in Glasgow in 1838.   He can then be found on the 1841 Scottish Census living in Glasgow, 2 years later, so why then would there be a monument to him in England?  If he died in January 1842, this could only have been about 10 months after the Census was taken?

Did he travel between the two cities?  I know his brother Charles S. Neasmith was living in Manchester.  Perhaps he instigated this monument?

It is interesting to note that Babsneigh's grandfather came out with the MacKinlays.  A Neish?  A Vallance?  A Neasmith?

Dijaks