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Re: MELLON/TIERNEY
« Reply #9 on: Monday 13 February 12 11:26 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

There is an Edward Mellon, 49, buried at the Wee Waa Cemetery.
Accidently killed 3rd March 1910.

http://austcemindex.com/inscription.php?id=7816206

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Gerry

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« Reply #10 on: Monday 13 February 12 12:13 GMT (UK) »

Edward Mellon born 1859, Native Place N.C. was tried on 1st April 1881 at Tamworth for horse stealing and served 12 months hard labour at the Tamworth Gaol.

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Re: MELLON/TIERNEY
« Reply #11 on: Monday 13 February 12 15:39 GMT (UK) »
Hi Pete,
All I can say is WOW and what an amazing story this all is.
And what a Beautiful Woman Ellen was.
I have glad at least I managed to put together a little of this before you came along and filled it all out.

All the best,
Trish :)
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Re: MELLON/TIERNEY
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 14 February 12 01:29 GMT (UK) »
HOLD THE PRESS !!! Some new information has come to light.

It seems there were 2 Elizabeth's giving birth to Knee children in this part of the world at about the same time.

Amelia E Gorrick Knee was born to the unmarried Elizabeth D (Darlinghurst) Knee and her father was Albert Gorrick. This explains the middle names. It might also lead to the idea that Elizabeth D Knee was Charles Knee's cousin or more likely, his sister and they travelled together.

So it appears that around 1861 or 1862 Charles and Elizabeth Clifford (Baker) left 'Sydenham Estate' Falbrook near Maitland and went to Scone accompanied by his sister (Elizabeth D Knee) and 2 or 3 yo Amelia. I'm assuming now that Charles' daughter, my G G Grandmother Ellen Louise Knee, the same age as Amelia, must have accompanied them also and not stayed at "Sydenham Estate" Falbrook. The girls were cousins.

In 1862 Charles and Elizabeth started having more children at Cuan Cuan Station, Scone while Elizabeth D Knee is living at Narrabri (near Wee Waa) where she marries William Trindall and starts a family. Amelia must have stayed with her mum. She eventually gives birth to Violet T Knee unmarried in 1879 at Maitland but then marries Thomas (James) N Jowitt in Tamworth in 1884 and they start their large family back in Narrabri in 1865.

Violet Maud T Knee (not Tierney) was born in 1879 at Maitland not Narrabri or Scone. A simple explanation would be that Narrabri and Scone didn't have electricity until 1920 so didn't have hospitals. While most births occurred in the home with a midwife present, if there were complications Maitland was the closest Hospital over 220 miles away.

The only Albert Gorrick on record is a Joseph Albert Gorrick (father Jacob mother Elizabeth) who married Cecilia Hillcoat at Maitland in 1868. I wonder if this family know they could have a half sister in Amelia and a long line of cousins living across the country. Second note of interest is that a Mr Isaac Gorrick served on the Board at Maitland Hospital, probably Albert's Uncle.

As there are no birth records for the older Knees, Elizabeth D or Charles or Ellen herself, it might seem the young Ellen came to Australia as a migrant with the rest of the family. There are several Knees in that part of NSW (The name was most likely Nuii or Nui. It was originally written as it sounded .. 'Nee' but that would have been too confusing for marriage records .. Amelia Jowitt (nee Nee) :) so the 'K' was added and it became Knee.

So the puzzle is falling into place with the discovery of Albert Gorrick's name on Amelia's birth record and the revelation that Elizabeth D Knee and Elizabeth Clifford followed similar paths but now I have to go back to the drawing boards with my G G Grandparents Ellen and George Leth.

My search now will be to find any trace of Leth in Scone, Wee Waa, Narrabri or surrounding areas. It seems he might have been droving or shearing when he met Ellen or perhaps there were gold diggings in northern NSW as well. Maybe the story of Ellen and the diggers took place in Scone not Falbrook. If I can find a Leth record anywhere it will pin point Ellen's whereabouts at the time.


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Re: MELLON/TIERNEY
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 01 March 12 06:29 GMT (UK) »
Oh dear!!! Where has all this latest information come from? I have a copy of the Birth Transcription from the NSW Registry of Births, Deaths and Marriages (requested by Jocelyn Bakewell on 17 February 2003) which shows that Elizabeth Knee aged 17 gave birth on 27 April 1859 to an illegitimate daughter, Amelia. The fathers's name is "not listed". I also have a copy of the record of the baptism of Emily Amelia, daughter of Elizabeth Knee, born on 27 April and baptised on 26 June 1859. I also have a copy of a Birth Transcription which shows that Amelia Emily Gorrick Knee gave birth to an illegitimate daughter, Violet Emily Maude Tierney, on 3 January 1879 at Rutherford, West Maitland. Again, the father is "not listed". Other documents show that Elizabeth Darlinghurst Knee subsequently married William Buckingham Trindall in 1862 and that Amelia Emily married Thomas Norton Jowitt in 1884. The mystery is: who were the fathers of these two illegitimate girls? It is very doubtful that Amelia's father could have been an Albert Gorrick or Joseph Albert Gorrick.
Furthermore there is a record of Elizabeth's baptism which was performed on 22 January 1843 and which shows her birth as being 30 December 1842, parents Daniel Knee and Mary Ann Knee although Daniel and Many Ann (Mantle)were not married until 27 February 1843.

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Re: MELLON/TIERNEY
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 22 June 13 13:06 BST (UK) »
Hi Kathy,

Elizabeth Graham (1893-1972) is one of the three legitimate daughters of Amelia Emilie and Thomas N. Jowitt. Her daughter Elva Dade wrote a book titled "And the women should not weep" which offers insight into 5 generations of family history. Elizabeth Graham is the sister of Alfred N. Jowitt. My mother shares Amelia Emilie as her Great Grandmother through her Father, Alfred Jnr Jowitt. The book intimates that George Nee (Uncle of Elizabeth Knee) was the Father of Amelia Emilie. At some point he changed his alias to his Great Grandfather's name "Joseph Albert Gorrick". Ultimately, he was buried under his alias' name.

Amelia Emile had Violet in 1879 to P.C. Gorrick(?) Unsure of his full name however the book suggests that Violet was reared by Elizabeth and William Trindall and Violet took on the Trindall name to protect her real Fathers profession as he could be struck off the legal register.

Only just started reading the book so will post again soon.

Regards,

Jason