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Offline JSHC

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Re: BROOMHOUSE
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 15 November 09 10:45 GMT (UK) »
I took the liberty of checking your website to get more details on this family.  It appears the parents did not marry until 1893 so I looked for Jane/Jeanie Wallace or Smith in the correct area (FYI Broomhouse is in Old Monkland Western District).

There is an entry for  Jane Scoullar Smith, also indexed under Wallace.   The actual entry reads Jane Scoullar Smith, illegitimate, born 1885 May 20, Boghall, Broomhouse.  Parents Matthew Smith coal miner and Marion Wallace domestic servant.  Both parents registered the birth.

Hope this helps
Joyce

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« Reply #10 on: Sunday 15 November 09 11:31 GMT (UK) »
Boghall was on the north side of Hamilton Road near to Mount Vernon. From www.old-maps.co.uk it looks to have been near the old dog track.

From your website, the Park Street where Jeanie was staying is in Motherwell

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« Reply #11 on: Sunday 15 November 09 17:48 GMT (UK) »
To Sancti and Joyce:

Sancti - Jeanie's marriage took place at Blythswood, Glasgow (1905).

Joyce - Thank you, thank you, thank you!  This is indeed the correct birth entry for my Jeanie, as her grandmother's name was Jean SCOULAR!  And, the fact that she was born illegitimate confirms other particulars I have re this family.  Jeanie's father (Matthew Smith) was married twice; his first wife (Janet Lindsay) died without issue and Matthew and Marion Wallace met and had 5 children, 2 of which I have confirmed as being illegitimate, and now Jeanie's birth makes 3. 

As well, your comment that Broomhouse is in Old Monkland Western District is what I was looking for in order to make an informed search on ScotlandsPeople for Jeanie.

I should mention here that my website is in definite need of updating; Jeanie's father was NOT Matthew Thomson Smith b 1858 Hamilton, Lanark, but was Matthew Smith b abt 1850 Ayrshire.  As well, Marion Wallace b 1859 Lanarkshire is incorrect, but should be b 1858 Ayrshire.  I have some work to do....

I would again like to thank you all for being so patient and so very helpful.   
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Re: BROOMHOUSE
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 15 November 09 17:58 GMT (UK) »
Is this the family's 1891 entry:

Matthew Smith 40, coal miner b. Galston, Ayrshire
Marion Smith 32 b. Galston, Ayrshire
Matthew Smith 9 b. Glasgow
John Smith 7 b. Glasgow
Jean Smith 5, b. Broomhouse
Elizabeth Smith 3 b. Hamilton
Robert Smith 1Month b. Hamilton
Andrew Riddle 15 boarder, coal miner b. Hamilton

Address: Windsor St 68 S, Hamilton

Monica
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« Reply #13 on: Sunday 15 November 09 18:03 GMT (UK) »
The informatiom came from your web page

Also, on the marriage certificate the place of residence for Jeanie is stated to be 48 Park St., Dalziel.

Park Street still exists in Motherwell today

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« Reply #14 on: Sunday 15 November 09 18:14 GMT (UK) »
Monica:  Yes, thank you, I have the 1891 census info.  The 2 children I had previously identified as illegitimate were Elizabeth and Robert.  I now have confirmed Jeanie/Jane's birth so still  have the birth records of Matthew and John to find. 

Sancti:  The Park Place, Dalziel address was where Jeanie was residing at the time of her marriage.  I'm going to attempt to locate photos of the area if possible - thank you for prompting me to do this.
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Re: BROOMHOUSE
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 15 February 11 08:24 GMT (UK) »
My Secondary school was in Baillieston and we use to pick children up from Broomhouse, It is right next to where Calderpark Zoo (Glasgow Zoo now closed) is, there is still houses there and Daldowie is not far away.  There is a road to Baillieston wich they use to call Hangmans Brae, also on the main Glasgow Road there used to be the Smugglers Inn which is now Demolished.
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« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 15 February 11 17:45 GMT (UK) »
Many thanks for this John.  Since my original posting I have received from a Lorna Allison a booklet entitled "Broomhouse A History" authored by Bill Brandon, which describes the village in detail, including photos.  She also supplied me with a hand-drawn map showing me approximately where the old structures, etc were and what is presently in their places. 

The book describes the position of Broomhouse in this manner - "Broomhouse is situated on the extreme east side of Glasgow with its boundaries being on the north side, the Rutherglen to Coatbridge railway line, the south side by the River Clyde, on the east, the North Calder Water, and the west being an imaginary short line drawn from Mount Vernon Bridge at the junction of London Road and Hamilton road to the River Clyde...."

Does this fit with your knowledge of the area?

Regards,
Pat
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« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 15 February 11 17:59 GMT (UK) »
That is accurate. I used to walk up and down the Hangman's Brae every day going to and from work.