Dublin City & County Maps - 1837/48/63/85 + 1904 Street Index

[martin roe]

Yes  Shane that was  me.  my dilemma is my Great granddad He is my wall.  On my Grandmothers side i`m back as far as 1820  on one line and 1840`s for the others .that has all been from the net, then confirmed through  the family.  But stephen Roe  Born  well I`m not sure   i have so many differn`t ages for him now i couldnt guess some where between 1860 to 1871 i need to find that birth cert   i diverse sorry   
thanks once again for your help
  martin

[kenneth cooke]

Hi Shane
I wonder if there is any way of finding out the former location of Yeates & Son,
Opticians, of 2 Grafton St, where Mr. Bloom (in Joyce's 'Ulysses') stopped to price the field glasses.
There is no trace of it left today. It was on the corner of Nassau St. but which corner? The east or the west side ? Hope somebody out there knows.
Ken

[shanew147]

No. 2 Grafton is on the east side - same side as Adam Court and Duke Street.

The listing for that address reads :
 
 Yeates and Sons, opticians and mathematical instrument makers to
  the University and Dublin Port Docks Board.

also listed at the address, possibly his residence, is an Arthur M. Yeates Esq..



(src: Thom's 1904)


Shane

[shanew147]

in case it's of interest to others this is the numbering pattern for Grafton St ..

East side (from North to South):
 
 ..jct with Nassau St..
 2 - 6
 ..jct with Adam Court..
 7 - 20
 ...jct with Duke St..
 21 - 27
 ...jct with Lemon St..
 28 - 33
 ...jct with (Sth) Anne St...
 34 - 51
 ...jct with Stephen's Green North and Sth King St...

West Side (from South to North) :

 52 - 61
 ..jct with Tangier Lane...
 62- 63
 ...jct with Chatham St..
 64 - 70
 .. jct with Harry St...
 71 - 80
 ..jct with Johnson's Court...
 81 - 95
 ...jct with Wicklow St..
 96 - 106
 ...jct with Suffolk St...
 107 - 119  (the section facing Trinity College ending with the tobacco & cigar merchants)
 ...jct with College Green...


Shane

[kenneth cooke]

Shane,
That is great, many thanks. I was inclined to think it was the east side as there
were two streets to the north, and Nassau St. ran to the east.
I was in Dublin recently and wanted to take a photo of the premises but could not see where it would have been, unlike Sweny's chemist shop, which is easy to identify.
I am related to both Sweny and Yeates, and contribute to those names on rootschat. I don't think Arthur M. Yeates is related, but I will check up.
Ken

[shanew147]

should have mentioned - no. 2 is right at the junction. No sign that I can see of a number 1 Grafton street in the 1900s

cant remember what no. 2 is now... maybe a building society or bank ?


Shane

[shanew147]

a bit more detail on No. 2 Grafton St.

1894 : Yeates & Son, opticians and mathematical instrument makers to
  the University and Dublin Port Docks Board.
  workshops and export dept. 25 Suffolk St.
  Stephen M. Yeates - res. Sorrento Villa, Dalkey

1879 : Yeates & Son, opticians and mathematical instrument makers to
  the University and Dublin Port Docks Board.
  also at 136 St. Stephen's Green
  res. Stephen Yeates

1863 : G. Yeates & Son, opticians and mathematical instrument makers to
  the University and Vicar's Lodge, south Circular Rd.

The index gives his first name as George, and also mentions another optician with the same surname :

  Horatio Yeates, optician &c, 23 Dawson St.

George is also listed at the address in 1852,  with an additional address (which appears to be his residence) at 11 Wellington Place, Clanbrassil St.

Earlier listings for number 2 list Yeates as opticians at the address back to at least 1827.

The earliest listing for an optician with the surname that I can see at the moment is in 1813 :

  89 Dame St, Samuel Yeates - optician

The Yeates business continued at the address up to the late 1930s at least, and they seem to have added an additional trade of 'Radio Dealers' to their business.

It looks like No. 1 Grafton street was across the street to the north, and inside the Trinity College grounds - there is a listing for Grafton St in 1848, before number 2 on the other side of Nassau St :

  1. Provosts House, Trinity College, Rev. P. Sadlier, D.D. prov.


Shane

[kenneth cooke]

Thanks again Shane,
Samuel Yeates,1762-1834 was one of four brothers in 'technical' occupations,
as well as a few cousins & uncles. He and his son George Mitchell, 1796-1882, were 'Yeates & Son'.(I am descended from his brother Kendrick, 1776-1850, a brass founder etc.)
The earliest address I have for Samuel is Capel St. in 1790. By 1827 he was at 2 Grafton St. George's son Stephen Mitchell Yeates, 1832-1901, took over later, and his son was Arthur Mitchell Yeates 1858-1916 (mentioned by you earlier).
As far as I know he was the last in the line, and by the 1940s Yeates & Son went out of the family. It is now at another address.
Horatio 1834-1907 was Stephen's brother. He brought his family to Australia, but we did not know them. You can read more about them in the topic 'Yeates of Dublin' on rootschat.
Ken

[Celticcrafter]

  thanks just found this map and found a street that my great grandparents lived on.  Regards C