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Re: Janet Milligan born about 1812
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 12 November 09 12:09 GMT (UK) »
oh well Ive just re read one of the replies, william hornell could be the nephew of Isobell hornell as she married William Milligan

father of Janet.  Now that is what I thought when I started.  Another piece of the puzzle.  You kind souls dont realise just how much help this has been.   Of the Merediths that went south I am the only one out of the 1 or 2 thousand trying to piece the puzzle.

So that makes Jannets birth year more like 1816
My son is in London and is going to visit Kirkcudbright so he will enjoy this story.  I see there is an artist in the family and that is Ernest A Hornel , an amazing scottish painter, such vibrancy in his colours.

The merediths in samoa have very very large families, to them children are blessings.

Would you also have the address of the street for the 1841 census, because depending on the date of the census thomas may or may not be born.



what do I do about the copyright gadget Im just new to this.


Also would you happen to know Williams occupation. pretty please.  Im just overwhelmed.
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Re: Janet Milligan born about 1812
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 12 November 09 12:20 GMT (UK) »
Janet's christening date is showing as 09 SEP 1813 in Kirkcudbright, so birth before that date. Her age in the 1841 census has been rounded down to the nearest 5 years as was the norm on the 1841 census. Census ages in general are only a guide as people were not precise generally when recording/remembering precise ages in that time.

Regarding an occupation for William, is this William Milligan, Janet's father?

Let me look for that 1841 census entry again in Liverpool and try and find the address (not always very clear to read). You have a birth date for son Thomas which would have been after the 1841 census date (June 6/7), so he would not show on the 1841 census entry with Thomas and Janet.

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Re: Janet Milligan born about 1812
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 12 November 09 12:22 GMT (UK) »
The address for 1841 looks like Trowbridge Street in Liverpool.
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Re: Janet Milligan born about 1812
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 12 November 09 12:25 GMT (UK) »
yes,
William Milligan is Jannets father thanks again
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Re: Janet Milligan born about 1812
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 12 November 09 12:29 GMT (UK) »
If it is that William, then he shows in both 1841 (with his reference for wife Isabella) and his entry in 1851 as a shoemaker. The entries are above  :)
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Re: Janet Milligan born about 1812
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 12 November 09 12:34 GMT (UK) »
Sorry Trudy, just reread and saw you had put this in:

what do I do about the copyright gadget Im just new to this.


What's this regarding  ???
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Re: Janet Milligan born about 1812
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 12 November 09 12:47 GMT (UK) »
on the online parish clerk for lancashire I have Thomas and Janet staying at Pembroke on July 1843.  According to all the talk in the two branches of the family, Thomas was not born in England and I do not find any entry anywhere for 22 August 1841.  That date is on his birth certificate  in Samoa.

They lived in district of Everton, in West Derby, and the last address was Tarlton Street when James my husbands grandfather is born.

That item about Thomas Jardine marrying  Sarah Milligan is amazing, because of  the the subscriber  Forrest connection.
The Thomas Meredith born 1810 also has a brother John but John is born in Worcester, but I see you put Claines as being in Westmoreland. not Worcester.  John has a daughter Frances or Fanny marries a Forrest and the son George is sent to New Jersey when her brother Samuel goes and they go to Passaic Paterson where Samuel is involved with Silk Industry and a factory as his wife is Maryanne Nightingale  and hence the new jersey connections.  That connection sent me on this journey but all I had was a name
John and a family tree for the son, nothing else.  So with great help am filling the gaps.  Im not registered with Ancestry.com so could someone post a message on there about this connection, thanks alot

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Re: Janet Milligan born about 1812
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 12 November 09 12:57 GMT (UK) »
Trudy

I think the reference to Westmoreland on the 1851 for Thomas' birth place is in error. I found this on IGI:

THOMAS MEREDITH Christening: 19 APR 1810 Claines, Worcester
Parents:TIMOTHY MEREDITH and MARY

I think from your other post, regarding possible brother John, you do have a potential reference for a father Timothy www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,418215.0.html

Monica:

What is is that you are concerned about regarding copyright as mentioned in my last post?
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Re: Janet Milligan born about 1812
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 12 November 09 13:42 GMT (UK) »
its just that thing down on the right hand sign about reporting to administrator.  Why does the the national archives come up a lot. a lot of my information is my own it seems weird.  Im new this is only my 2nd topic and a read something in how to use this that if I ddint put something about info from archives being copyright or I could be blocked from using.  I hope Im doing the right thing.
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Coe, New York, San Franscisco, Connecticut
Schaumkel, Germany
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Milligan, Kirkcudbright, Lancashire, US
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Keelan, Ireland,
Fleugge, Flugge, Germany, US
Obrist, Switzerland, NZ, US
Forrest, Macclesfield, New Jersey, New York, Passaic
Brereton, Wales, New Jersey
Nightingale, Leek, Passaic
Jardine, Hunterdon