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« Reply #27 on: Thursday 12 November 09 08:16 GMT (UK) »
It appears that Edmund Richard Lyons ROE married Coral Beatrice ARTHUR in 1920 in Sydney as per NSW BD&M index;
Richard L ROE married Coral B ARTHUR

I am surprised what has been found and where it was found.

Thankyou seems such a small return on everyone's help, but it is a genuine thankyou.

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Grantley

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« Reply #28 on: Thursday 12 November 09 12:32 GMT (UK) »
Hi Grantley

Glad you found the reference to the possible marriage. 
I'd been about to post it here when up popped that dreadful message  ... ROOTSCHAT IS VERY BUSY AT THE MOMENT  ...  so I was promptly booted out of the action !
Grrr !

Incidentally, Frances Mary's date of death was 27 April, 1951.

Lu

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« Reply #29 on: Friday 13 November 09 07:02 GMT (UK) »
I do not know the final outcome, but William Henry Lyons ROE, alias Arthur J. COATES had trouble with the police in Victoria as well.

The Argus (Melbourne, Vic.) Saturday 29 September 1883, page 12
CHARGES OF WHOLESALE SWINDLING.
At the City Police Court on Friday, a gentlemanly-looking man named Arthur J. Coates was brought up on remand on five charges of having obtained goods from various persons in Melbourne by means of false pretences.
Sir Bryan O'Loghlen appeared for the prosecution, and Mr. Fisher the defence, and it was arranged that the evidence for the whole of the charges should be taken together as for one case.
Mr Call, P.M., who presided on the bench, said with regard to these cases it would be impossible for the evidence to be prepared in time for the cases to be tried at the next court of General Sessions, and therefore he had decided to send the cases for trial to the Central Criminal Court, to be held on the 15th prox. The prisoner would therefore be committed for trial to that court on the charge investigated the previous day of having obtained goods to the value of £40 15s. from Messrs. Briscoe and Co., iron merchants, &c.
The other charges against the prisoner were;
(1) For having obtained from Mr. D. Altson, saddle and harness maker, goods to the value of £52 17s 6d
(2) goods from Messrs. McEwan and Co., iron merchants to the value of £49 10s l0d
(3) goods from H. Young and Co., watchmakers and jewellers, to the value of £74
(4) plated goods to the value of £4 3s 6d., and
(5) woolpacks to the value of £14 3s. 4d from Messrs McEwan   and Co.
The evidence taken in support of these charges was very similar to that given in the first case, and which was published in The Argus of Friday. The prisoner, it appears,  in most of the cases first introduced himself to the firms by making a small purchase and paying for the goods by a cheque on the Union Bank at Sandhurst. In all cases he
represented himself as a squatter, and generally mentioned that he was fixing up a new place for his boys near Sandhurst. On the strength of the cash transaction he had very little difficulty in obtaining credit, and once having obtained an invoice of goods for a large amount duly receipted as settled by acceptance, he made use of that and the cash receipts to induce other persons to give him similar terms. All the bills were drawn at four months' date, and the prisoner, it seems, after selling large quantities of fencing wire, galvanised iron, and cement, shipped the other goods to New Zealand. The saddlery from Altson's was sent to Sandhurst, as directed, and the prisoner arranged with the officers at the Spencer-street railway station for the case and two packages to he brought back to Melbourne. A case and two packages of ironmongery from McEwan and Co.'s, also addressed to Sandhurst, he got possession of by delivering up the receipt notes. These goods he stored for a few days at Johnson's tree store in King-street, and     then had them carted to Broadbent Bros.' and Co.'s yard, for transmission to New Zealand by the “s.s. Manapouri”. The goods were sent as directed, and they will be brought back to Melbourne, the agents at Lyttelton having been advised by telegraph of the state of the case.
The prisoner, who reserved his defence, was committed for trial on each charge at the next sittings of the Central Criminal Court, to be held at Melbourne on the 15th prox.

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Grantley

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« Reply #30 on: Monday 03 January 11 05:55 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
Might be a bit late, but FWIW:

Alice and Robert STORY had 7 children

Enid Mary 1894 #16118
Robert Douglas 1895 # 8456
Alice Lucilla 1897 #7725
Jack 1900 #10725
Hilda Noel 1902 #5005
Colin Rae 1903 #6186
Stuart Ruxton 1905 #14540

Robert Story (1862-1918) was the eldest son of Robert Story (1830-1909) and Mary Ann Ruxton (1833-1877), from Edinburgh but his family originated from Jedburgh, Roxburghshire, Scotland. Robert, jnr (and according to family legend 2 younger brothers, probably Daniel and Herbert) left Scotland in the mid-1880s, Robert settling in NZ. He was farming at "Kinloch", Otautau before he purchased Venlaw Station, near Wyndham, Southland about 1905, where some of the the family still live.

Of the children:

Enid died unm. 1974 - lived at Venlaw Station all her adult life

Doug died unm. 1950

Lucille (Lulu) married John Tyndall Lockyer Williams, a doctor  in Dunedin and had 2 daus (at least).

Nony (Noel) died unm 1999 . in Invercargill, having lived most of her life at Venlaw.

Colin Roe married Shelagh Mary Unknown, took over the farm, and had 2 sons, both of whom are still alive. They both married and have children and grandchildren.

Stuart, my grandfather, (d. 1986, Wanganui) married Alice Ruth Mason and had 1 son and 2 daughters (all surviving with children).

It was somehow imprinted on me when I was young that Gt-Grannie being "a Roe" was of great social significance. I knew nothing about her father until reading this post. Presumably no else did either! Sounds a right scoundrel  (or should be larrikin). Thanks, all, for the information.




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« Reply #31 on: Monday 03 January 11 06:11 GMT (UK) »
Welcome to Rootschat,

I have sent you a personal message with my email address, so that we can fill in some pieces.

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Grantley

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« Reply #32 on: Wednesday 30 November 11 20:26 GMT (UK) »
I have only now read this message and was very excited that someone was researching the Story family. My family line comes down from Robert Story b. 1803, the father of Robert Story b. 1830. I have old letters from the 1850s 60s written to Robert Story b. 1830 which also contain a lot of information on other members of the family. I would love to hear any more information you might have.

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« Reply #33 on: Wednesday 30 November 11 21:19 GMT (UK) »
Hi GKE,

I have sent you a personal message with my email address.

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Grantley

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« Reply #34 on: Thursday 01 December 11 00:45 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for getting back to me Grantley. I'll go check your message right away.

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« Reply #35 on: Tuesday 28 January 14 23:04 GMT (UK) »
I have been reading with interest about Robert and Alice Story that owned Venlaw Station.  My g.great uncle William Young who immigrated from Scotland worked for them.  He died about 1930 at age 89.  He never married.  I have a letter saying that Mrs. Story and her daughters took care of him as he was bed ridden for a while before he died.  I would love to get in touch with any relative of Alice or her daughters and find out more information about William.  His funeral was held at Venlaw Station, and he was buried in the village of Wyndham.  I was just wondering about the possibly of finding his grave and maybe get a photo of it.  I was also thinking there might be photo's of William somewhere.
Any information would be appreciated.
Margaret.