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Offline smythes

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scott family
« on: Monday 09 November 09 04:30 GMT (UK) »
Seeking info john nelson fairgrieve scott b dunse 1881,  m rebecca mc clean b 1882 m newcastle 1905 - parents John scott and Eliza Fairgrieve (stuck) can anyone help

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Re: scott family
« Reply #1 on: Monday 09 November 09 10:39 GMT (UK) »
I think that Eliza Fairgrieve is Eliza Adams born 23 Feb 1860  Duns, Berwickshire, Scotland, illegitimate daughter of Eliza Adams.
John & Eliza Scott's second child is Mary Sutherland Scott (born 1882 in England) and in 1861 one year old Eliza Adams is a boarder in the boarding house of Mary Sutherland. She is still there in 1871 (Dunse Parish Lodging House).
In 1881 in the same household as the Scotts is elderly Thomas & Isabella Fairgrieve who may have adopted Eliza.
   

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Re: scott family
« Reply #2 on: Monday 09 November 09 13:03 GMT (UK) »
Good work April :)

1871 Census
Brieryhill,
Dunse, Berwickshire, Scotland
Dunse, 4/14/5

William SCOTT, 40, Head, Mar, Farm lab, born Ormiston, East Lothian
Helen, 35, Wife, Mar, born Edinburgh, Midlothian
JOHN, 15,Son, Farm Labourer born Humbie, East Lothian
William, 12, Son, Scholar, born Fala, Midlothian
Charles, 8, Son, Scholar, born Borthwick, Midlothian
Lewis, 4, Son, born Channelkirk, Berwickshire
Elizabeth, 9mths, Daug, born Dunse, Berwickshire

Marriage;

William SCOTT
Hellen NELSON
22 June 1855, Humbie, East Lothian, Scotland

Still trying to find  Scott/Sutherland/Fairgreaves connection.
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Re: scott family
« Reply #3 on: Monday 09 November 09 13:12 GMT (UK) »
Got it ;D

1861 Census
5 East Side
Gordon, Berwickshire

Thomas FAIRGROVE, 52, Mar, occp Hedger, born Westruther, Berwickshire
Isabella Fairgrove, 52, Wife, mar, born Channelkirk, Berwick
JOHN SCOTT, 6, Grand or Great Nephew, born Humbie, Haddington
Thomas HOGG, 16, Servant, Ag lab, born Gifford, Haddington
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Re: scott family
« Reply #4 on: Monday 09 November 09 13:18 GMT (UK) »
I got the marriage certificate.......
John Scott's mother was Helen Nelson, the daughter of Robert Nelson and Elizabeth Lumsden. Elizabeth's sister Isabella Lumsden married Thomas Fairgrieve.

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Re: scott family
« Reply #5 on: Monday 09 November 09 13:25 GMT (UK) »
So at least this all ties up!
Think I will leave Sutherland connection til later or April

1881 we have;

John SCOTT, 25, Farm Steward, born Humbie East Lothian
Eliza, 21, Wife, born Dunse, Berwickshire
JOHN NELSON F SCOTT, 6mths
CHARLES SCOTT, 17, Brother, Farm lab, born Borthwick, Midlothian
Thomas FEARGREAVE, 73, Lodger, Westruther, Berwick
ISABELLA Feargreave, 81, Lodger, Channelkirk, Berwick
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Re: scott family
« Reply #6 on: Monday 09 November 09 13:27 GMT (UK) »
Excellent April :) ;D
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Re: scott family
« Reply #7 on: Monday 09 November 09 13:31 GMT (UK) »
Now to Mary Sutherland, maybe grandma of Eliza  ???
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Re: scott family
« Reply #8 on: Monday 09 November 09 13:46 GMT (UK) »
I have traced Mary Sutherland back and there it seems like ther is no family connection. But as Eliza lived with her for at least 11 years obviously she was like a Mother to her. That is probably why she names a daughter after her :)
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