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Lillian BENTLEY
« on: Friday 06 November 09 05:16 GMT (UK) »
My great grandmother Lillian Bentley (sometimes spelt with one L in middle) died on 23 July 1904 in Adelaide. At the time she had 6 children. I have been unable to find her burial but was told she was at West terrace. I went there on a recent trip to Adelaide and she is not on the "touch screen' data base. I would love to know where she is buried.

On her death her 6 children were split up and it seems her husband Wilfred Bentley ( a name assumed by Bruno Alfred August HIntz from the Barossa) moved away in the next few years or so. I have been unable to find his whereabouts or death details. He was born Bruno Hintz on 23 august 1870 at Gawler and married Lillian (nee Dollman) in melbourne in 1897.

My grandmother Florence Ethel Bentley (Florrie) married Arthur Edward Rains in 1911 and stated on her wedding certificate that her father's whereabouts were unknown. Help appreciated. Jess

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Re: Lillian Bentley
« Reply #1 on: Friday 06 November 09 06:27 GMT (UK) »
Hi Jess :)

Welcome to rootschat.

I will detail Bruno's birth so others searching will have his parents' names. May help identify him in the death indexes.

HINZE Bruno Alfred August
23 Aug 1870
Father Henry HINZE   Mother Maria Elisabeth SEIBOTH
At  Lyndoch   Bar 86/519

and marriage

DOLLMAN Lillian Blanche Elizabeth  b. Birmingham
BENTLEY Wilfred b. Adelaide
1897  Reg#5309

It would appear by the birth names of Alice in 1892 they had a relationship prior to the marriage.

Births I can find

DOLLMAAN  Alice Bentley
Father Unknown   Mother Lillian Blanche DOLLMAAN
At Scoresby  1892  Reg#36325

DOLLMAAN  Florence Ethel
Father Unknown Mother Liln Blanche DOLLMAAN
At Scoresby  1894  Reg#6837

DOLLMAAN Alma Gladys
Father Unknown   Mother Lillian Blanche DOLLMAAN
At Scoresby  1895 Reg#15796

DOLLMAN Vera Kathleen
Father Unknown  Mother Lillian Blanche DOLLMAN
At Box Hill 1897  Reg#16898

BENTLEY Errol Lionel
4 Dec 1902
Father Wilfrid BENTLEY    Mother Lillian DOLLMAN
At Gawler South    PtG  705/125

I notice this death as HINTZ

HINTZ Alice Emily
26 Dec 1910  19 years  Status Not known    Relative Bruno HINTZ [Father]
Residence Williamstown    Death Place Adelaide   Ade H  354/137

I notice that Bruno's parents both died at Williamstown.

As you have Lilian's date of death you could ring the Adelaide Cemeteries Authority that manages West Terrace and other cemeteries. It may help them locate her burial in their register.   Perhaps you could ask them to check the other cemeteries they manage as well.

http://aca.sa.gov.au/west-terrace-cemetery/index.php

Contact details on website.

I note that Lilian died in hospital...do you have her death cert? - Unfortunately in 1904 place of burial was not included on death certificates.

BENTLEY Lilian
23 Jul 1904  34 years  Status Married  Relative Wilfred BENTLEY [Husband]
Residence Parkside  Death Place Adelaide  Ade Symbol H  303/366

Hope the ACE can help you. 

Cheers
Cando


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Re: Lillian Bentley
« Reply #2 on: Friday 06 November 09 06:48 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Cando,
I do have her death certificate. I will contact the cemetery as you suggest.
I have a letter which pretty much proves that Lillian and Wilfred were together and all the 4 children born out of wedlock were his. (even though the certs say father unknown.)

I really wish I knew what became of him.

Any clues on how to find who raised the children? I know the boys were 'adopted' Herbert by the Reynolds family and Lionel by his 'aunt' who married a Winton.My grandmother, Florence knew very little about her family and in the 1920s contacted the Salvation army about it. I am wondering if they ran an orphanage in Adelaide.

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Re: Lillian Bentley
« Reply #3 on: Friday 06 November 09 06:58 GMT (UK) »
Hi Jess - As I posted, the name Bentley as a 2nd given name points to Bruno/Wilfred as the father as well.

Perhaps this may help
http://www.clan.org.au/homes_listing.php?searchField=tbl_homes.stateID&search=3

Do you know the name of the family who cared for Florence? 

Cando
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Re: Lillian BENTLEY
« Reply #4 on: Friday 06 November 09 08:55 GMT (UK) »
Wow, thanks for that site. that will keep me busy for  a while. :) :)

I don't know who looked after her. I did find on the Australian digital newspapers in the Advertiser of 2 jan 1906, the "Court happy Home" conducted a picnic day and in the list of prize winners, a FLorrie Bentley won the 'recitation for girls'. It may just be  a coincidence but is  a good lead to follow now I have that web site. Thank you.
 :D