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Re: Immigration to South Africa in the 1900's
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 05 November 09 20:44 GMT (UK) »
Captain Silverfox here, Dorothy had Three children one killed by a car in SA.

Dorothy was from the farnham area in Surrey, so I dont think that  Dorothy L is our girl.
Family Name West. Farnham Area Surrey. Villages of Frensham,Dockenfield,Churt,Bourne,Headley and Rowledge.

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Re: Immigration to South Africa in the 1900's
« Reply #19 on: Thursday 05 November 09 20:51 GMT (UK) »
HI Silverfox and All

I've looked for a Ron' Clayton in the 1911 census and there are none that I could find that would satisfy a very quick marriage.


I think that marriage cert is def needed


Wendy
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Blakeley in Batley West Yorks
Turner in Hanging Heaton West Yorkshire
Dann last known area Soothill West Yorks
Hirst in Hanging heaton W Yorks
Moss in Morley and Leeds
Parker in Morley W Yorks
Parker in Hull E Yorks
Tilburns in Morley W Yorks

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Re: Immigration to South Africa in the 1900's
« Reply #20 on: Thursday 05 November 09 20:56 GMT (UK) »
Silverfox - please don 't think me rude, but how do you know Dorothy came from Farnham?

Capt P seems to confirm she was in Swansea in 1911, and she was with known relatives.

So often things that are "known" in the family turn out not to be the case.

But if you have info to the contrary, then you can save him the cost of a marriage certificate!  ;D

meles
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Re: Immigration to South Africa in the 1900's
« Reply #21 on: Thursday 05 November 09 20:57 GMT (UK) »
Aye, but in the 1901 census she is 6 years old with her sister and brothers and  mother Eliza, 1891 same mother and siblings.
We have concrete proof of the 2 sister and 1 brother, photos and living proof.

So I really think it cannot be the swansea girl, all of her West Family org form the Frensham surrey area.


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Re: Immigration to South Africa in the 1900's
« Reply #22 on: Thursday 05 November 09 20:59 GMT (UK) »
OK. Good and sorted.

Back to the drawing board!  ;)

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Re: Immigration to South Africa in the 1900's
« Reply #23 on: Thursday 05 November 09 21:00 GMT (UK) »
Hi Winston

We have been trying to track Dorothy down for some time. If see left the country to go to SA around 1912 - 18 she would have had to have had a pass port are these records available and where.

We cant find any records of the troops moving from Bordon Amy camp but we know they did as the camp went to Aldershot, around that time.

We have been to the Surrey history centre and look through the wedding certs but could not find one for her.

If you guys can be of any help it would be great.

Many Thanks for now.
Family Name West. Farnham Area Surrey. Villages of Frensham,Dockenfield,Churt,Bourne,Headley and Rowledge.

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Re: Immigration to South Africa in the 1900's
« Reply #24 on: Thursday 05 November 09 21:02 GMT (UK) »
Capt P seems to confirm she was in Swansea in 1911, and she was with known relatives.

So often things that are "known" in the family turn out not to be the case.
meles

Opps.................everthing is getting confused here :P

Silerfox is my Brother, our mother remembers her Mother = Martha talking to her about Dorothy meeting an SA soldier and going to SA, the Swansea girl cannot possibly be our Dot.
She ties in with the census with her brother and sisters who we have photos of.

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Re: Immigration to South Africa in the 1900's
« Reply #25 on: Thursday 05 November 09 21:03 GMT (UK) »
Damm the slow refresh button 8)

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Re: Immigration to South Africa in the 1900's
« Reply #26 on: Friday 06 November 09 05:28 GMT (UK) »
Silverfox

I agree with you in the fact that Dorothy (whatever her surname was at the time) would indeed have needed a passport of sort.  Sadly the records that we as the public do have access to are only available for 1851 to 1903 due to data protection and all that.


I have seen a couple of family trees which contain Dorothy West 'marrying' a Ronald Clayton but again they have no extra info to offer either no dates no ages for him in fact no mention of children.


If noly Dorothy had been a bit older and married before the census and was perhaps living with hubby in the latest census at the time.  I would not be questioning the marriage to Mr R Clayton.


But I am still intrigued as to where the name came from for you and Captain to be aware of it.


I will be back, unless I get lost in the hunt.


Wendy
Any census information included in this post is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Blakeley in Batley West Yorks
Turner in Hanging Heaton West Yorkshire
Dann last known area Soothill West Yorks
Hirst in Hanging heaton W Yorks
Moss in Morley and Leeds
Parker in Morley W Yorks
Parker in Hull E Yorks
Tilburns in Morley W Yorks