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Re: Venus Family
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 11 July 10 19:45 BST (UK) »
Hello,

    Do you know of the Medwaycityark site?

     I am sure that I have noticed the name Venus among parish records for Dartford churches
        when I have been searching my own families, but didn't notice where exactly.

     It is a very useful site, but needs to be trawled through parish by parish.

       I hope this might be useful.       ama
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Re: Venus Family
« Reply #10 on: Friday 16 July 10 21:26 BST (UK) »
Hello
I am descended from Aaran VENUS daughter Charlotte b 21 June 1869 at Harlands Cottages, Orpington. I cannot find her death certificate at the moment. She married George HUDSON a mariner at St James Church Gateshead on 1 August 1886. Havent done any research on other members of the VENUS family though.

Couldnt find any info on the 1871 census either Im afraid but Ill keep looking.

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Re: Venus Family
« Reply #11 on: Friday 08 October 10 17:45 BST (UK) »
I am descended from Thomas & Charlotte Venus of St Mary Cray via their son AAron who married Mary Ann Nevans at Saltwick parish Church in Sunderland.They had 8 children one of whom was my grandfather Daniel Venus
b in 1882. Daniel married an Emily Anderson who hailed from Seaham Harbour in the North East. Daniel and Emily had 4 children one of whom died as a young boy(Daniel). The other children were Aaron David Saxby, Stanley and Margaret. Stanley was my father. ADS was so christened first with a biblical name,then David after his maternal grandfather(David Anderson) and finally Saxby because that was the name of the jockey who rode the winner of the big race on the day that he was born(Grandfather Daniel was a back street bookmaker in Gateshead). Family folklore has Aaron the elder sailing up from Kent and meeting his 17 yr old bride at Sunderland.Some of their children were born in Kent and some in Gateshead. There is quite an imposing gravestone commemorating Daniel and Emily Venus on the left hand side not very far into the main entrance of Sunderland Road Cemetry between Newcastle and Gateshead. Aaron the elder and Mary Ann are also buried in this cemetry but their is no gravestone.I have never been able to link with certainty Thomas' Venus birth parents

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Re: Venus Family
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 10 October 10 10:13 BST (UK) »
Thomas Venus b. 13th Dec 1796 Baptist, Eynsford, Kent, England
Christening :- Seven Oaks, Kent, England
Marriage to Chrlotte Watson 1816, Orpington Kent

Joseph Venus b. 1774
Marriage to Elizabeth Turner 2nd March 1794, Eynsford Kent.

https://beta.familysearch.org may be of some use



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Re: Venus Family
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 02 March 11 14:44 GMT (UK) »
[Hi

My children are descendants of Charlotte Venus. She married a George Hudson who died around 1904-1908 but I cannot trace death cert. They had 6 children together. She then took up resident with a new partner, James Dickson Jones and they had a child called Robina Jones. Robina is my childrens great grandmother. Charlotte died giving birth to her second child with james in 1911. Her death cert is a Charlotte Jones.
Has anyone any photos of Charlotte Venus or her children,
william 1886
nathaniel 1888
margaret 1891
catherine 1892
john t 1896
georgina 1904










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Re: Venus Family
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 02 March 11 19:18 GMT (UK) »
I have no photographs Im afraid. Catherine Hudson was my great grandmother b. 12 April 1892 Summer Street Gateshead d. 13 November 1970 St Nicholas Hospital Newcastle upon Tyne. I could not find Charlotte Venus death certificate - no wonder if she was married again!
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Re: Venus Family
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 03 March 11 09:14 GMT (UK) »
Thanks David

If you look at 1911 census for Catherines youngest sister Georgina Huson, you will find her living with her mother, Charlotte Hudson and Charlottes partner James Jones. I cant find evidence of Charlotte and James ever been married but she was buried as Jones. I have her death cert and her daughter Robinas birth certificate if you would like a copy for your family tree.
Are you on Ancestry.co.uk?

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Re: Venus Family
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 06 March 11 00:10 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for that. My Ancestry username is DAVIDUK2381
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Re: Venus Family
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 06 March 11 16:13 GMT (UK) »
Shields Gazette Published on Mon Jan 05 01:56:52 GMT 2009

IT was an endearing image while it lasted – that Israel Venus ended his days as an old man of the sea, surrounded by a large and loving family.

The truth? Israel Venus hanged himself in his own tripe preparer's shop near the Market Place in Shields. He was only 37.

"I always knew that he died young, but I would have been less surprised to discover that it had been from cholera or something like that, than that he had taken his own life. It was quite sad," said Diane Peacock.

Diane, of Fitzpatrick Place in South Shields, was left aghast and excited when she opened her Gazette to Cookson Country just before Christmas, to see names and places straight out of her family history.

There, in letters, birth certificates and other documents, some more than 150 years old, were whole missing chapters in the story of Israel, her great-great-great grandfather, and his offspring.

Twenty years after she first started researching her family tree, it was a genealogical bounty the mum-of-two never expected to see.

"It's a dream come true. They'll be treasured forever," said Diane, 44, a clerical worker at South Tyneside College.

Gazette reader Kerry Bailey had brought the items to Cookson Country, having hung on to them since they were saved in a house clearance some years ago.

They include a wedding ring and a lock of hair, plus numerous letters, some sent from the Western Front during the First World War.

Most date from between the turn of last century and the 1930s and were sent to family members living in and around the Mile End Road area.

Several documents are particularly enthralling, among them the indentures Israel Venus signed as a seagoing apprentice in 1839, his employer being a South Shields ship owner called Elizabeth Gare.

Israel Venus belongs to Diane's mother's side of the family, which she has researched back to as early as 1500.

"The name Venus originally came from Normandy," she said.

Israel was born in September, 1824, in a small parish called St Mary's Cray in Kent, to a family of agricultural labourers. He was one of 13 children.

"I think their father must have been a Baptist as all the children had biblical names such as Moses, Aaron, Daniel, Esther and the like," said Diane.

Most of the children stayed in Kent, and Diane, who has visited Israel's birthplace and still has family in the area, believes that it was as a young man, when field work became harder to make a living, that Israel must have signed up as a seaman.

It was how he met his wife, Dorothy Ann Miller, who was the daughter of a master mariner. They married in 1848 at St Hilda's Church in Shields and went on to have six children.

"Their eldest child was called Mary Miller Venus, born 1848, who became my great-great grandmother," said Diane."Mary married Robert Forster, a ballast trimmer, in 1873 at St Stephen's church."

The discovery of the documents prompted Diane to try to discover how Israel died.

Her search led her to the pages of the Gazette in the summer of 1861, and a report of an inquest held at the Crown and Anchor Inn in Thrift Street, on the riverside.

This revealed that Israel had been found hanging in his tripe preparer's premises in Saltwell Lane, which used to be between Ferry Street and the Market Place.

It was reported that he had been drinking in the days beforehand and had been in a "low state of mind".

Israel's daughters, Charlotte and Dorothy, along with their mother, kept the tripe business going after Israel's death.

Alexander Chappel, who was Scottish and who married Charlotte, also went into the business and took an active part in it when he left the sea.

"Israel's wife, Dorothy Ann, is buried in Westoe Cemetery, and her headstone, which is a considerable size, still stands today along the back of the cemetery near Erskine Road.

Israel was buried in St Stephen's churchyard," said Diane.

"I like to think that the red hair and the wedding ring belonged to Israel, and was lovingly kept by his wife as a keepsake."

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