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1881 & 1891 Lookup Please Completed
« on: Sunday 01 November 09 10:19 GMT (UK) »
Hi I am after a census lookup years 1881 and 1891 for William Newton born abt 1851 Macclesfield married to Eliza born abt 1846. They married in 1873 in Stoke. The lookup is for both names as I think William had died before 1891.

Many thanks in advance

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Re: 1881 & 1891 Lookup Please
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 01 November 09 10:50 GMT (UK) »
Hi

1881: 9 Newton Street, Stoke Upon Trent, Staffordshire
RG11 /  Piece: 2727 /  Folio: 119 /  Page: 11
Head: William NEWTON 30, Potter's fireman, b Macclesfield, Chester
Wife: Eliza NEWTON 36, b Stoke on Trent, Stafford
Step-Dau: Elizabeth SUTHERLAND 16, unm, P Transferrer, b Stoke on Trent, Stafford
Step-Son: John SUTHERLAND 14, Mould Runner, b Stoke on Trent, Stafford
Son: William NEWTON 7, Scholar, b Stoke on Trent, Stafford
Son: Henry NEWTON 4, Scholar, b Stoke on Trent, Stafford

The 1873 marriage you mention - the bride was Eliza SUNDERLAND as indexed on FreeBMD?

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AMBLY
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Re: 1881 & 1891 Lookup Please
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 01 November 09 11:00 GMT (UK) »
AMBLY

Many thanks for the 1881 is there anything in the 1891?

Thanks  :)

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Re: 1881 & 1891 Lookup Please
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 01 November 09 11:10 GMT (UK) »
William Newton Married Eliza Sutherland
1873 Stoke on Trent
Ref 6b 323 or 6b 325

William Worked in Potters

1881 Census lived at
9  New Street Stoke on Trent
William Newton
Eliza
Elizabeth Sutherland  16yrs b1865 s\o\t Stepdaughter
John Sutherland 14yrs b1867 s\o\t
William Newton b1874 S\o\t
HenryNewton b1877 s\o\t

1891 Census
William Newton with Diffrent Wife called Mary
with William b 1874 s\o\t
Harryb1877 s\o\t 
and another child

Hope this of Help

yours Helen


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Re: 1881 & 1891 Lookup Please
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 01 November 09 11:13 GMT (UK) »
Hi
I think it was Eliza, who was deceased before 1891 - not William

DEATH: Eliza NEWTON age 36, Stoke on Trent - Dec Qtr 1883

1891: 14 Conway Street -  Hanley, Stoke upon  Trent, Staffordshire
RG12 /  Piece: 2171 /  Folio 125 /  Page 56
Head: William NEWTON 40, Potters Biscuit Fireman, b Macclesfield, Cheshire
Wife: Mary A NEWTON 36, b Hanley, Staffordshire
Son: William NEWTON 17, unm, Potters Oddman, b Hanley, Staffordshire
Son: Harry NEWTON 14, Scholar, b Hanley, Staffordshire
Dau: Lizzie NEWTON 14, Potters Transferer Apprentice, b Hanley, Staffordshire

Cheers
AMBLY

PS: The 1873 marriage has Eliza as SUNDERLAND, not SUTHERLAND.  :)
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Re: 1881 & 1891 Lookup Please Completed
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 01 November 09 11:28 GMT (UK) »
Many thanks for the above the dau Lizzie is very new I think I have missed this one by thinking that Eliza is still alive and that William had died.

Many thanks for the lookup  :)

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Re: 1881 & 1891 Lookup Please Completed
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 01 November 09 18:20 GMT (UK) »
You're welcome :)

Unless Lizzie in 1891 is really the same as  Elizabeth SUTHERLAND from 1881,  with her age mistaken in 1891  - I would suspect Lizzie is the  daughter of the 2nd wife and a step-daughter to William NEWTON?

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Re: 1881 & 1891 Lookup Please Completed
« Reply #7 on: Monday 02 November 09 18:01 GMT (UK) »
AMBLY

I have not found a ref to Lizzie on any other searches I think that she must be a step daughter who possible took the last name Newton. I have tried to locate the marriage to prove this but as of today unable. I will continue looking many thanks for your help.
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