Unassisted Inward Passenger Lists to Victoria - HALES, Chas, Geo and Solomon

[davidga]

Lookup request:

The online index gives the above names as passengers on the "George Marshall", arriving Apr 1855 (Port B, Fiche 009, Page 005). I have been told that George and Solomon were the brothers of my g.g.grandfather Charles HALES (1822-98), who was a Wheelwright by profession.

I'd be very interested to know whether the "Chas" on this ship was my Charles. He spent most of his life in Hempstead, Essex, England, but there is a gap in his children's births between 1854 and 1858 - so it's possible that he went to Australia in 1855, but quickly returned.

So if anyone could look up the fiche and see if there's further info about Chas, I'd be most grateful!

David Andrews

[judb]

Hi David

will be able to have a look but not till late in the week.  Someone else may well find it for you before then.

Judith

[davidga]

Hi Judith - many thanks!

David 

[sarra]

David,

Information from manifest for "George Marshall" the Chas Hales listed was age 32 - English - occupation - grocer.
He was travelling with Geo Hales age 29 - occupation - tailor.
Solomon Hales - age 21 - occ - baker.

Hope this helps.

Sarra

[davidga]

Sarra - many thanks!

The ages match my other information, but the occupations of Charles, George and Solomon don't exactly fit. Their father was a grocer, but Charles's occupation was definitely a Wheelwright on his marriage certificate in 1850 and the 1851 and 1861 England censuses.

In the 1851 census, George was a "Baker of bread" and Solomon was an Assistant to a Master Draper. So perhaps the manifest mixed those two up? (An Australian contact tells me that they both stayed in Australia.)

Is there any indication that the three were travelling together (consistent with them being brothers), or is the list in alphabetical order anyway?

David

[Raylen]

In the 1851 census, George was a "Baker of bread" and Solomon was an Assistant
to a Master Draper. So perhaps the manifest mixed those two up?
(An Australian contact tells me that they both stayed
in Australia.[/b])
David

Hi David

Deaths in Victoria

HALES  Soloman  1906
Age 72  Melb East
Father - Wm Hales   Mother - Hart Stubbings
Reg#6094

HALES Geo  1903
Age 80 Collingwood
Father - Wm Hales   Mother - Hart Stubbings
Reg#13049

Raylen

[davidga]

Thanks, Raylen . They are indeed the brothers of my g.g. grandfather Charles. Their father was William HALES and their mother Harriet/Harriott, etc STUBBINGS. Their ages are about right, too.

There was an older brother John (Alexander) HALES (d. 1910) who also emigrated to Australia, probably in 1852. He was a carpenter by trade. My Australian contact is a descendant of his.

David

[sarra]

Is there any indication that the three were travelling together (consistent with them being brothers), or is the list in alphabetical order anyway?
David

Definitely all (three) travelling together I would say.
Have attached part of the manifest for you to look at. Going by what you have posted about their occupations it does seem as though someone got it mixed up.

Sarra

[sarra]

Oh here is the attatchment - sorry.