WELNEY - the brickwall

[penshurst]

Hello all from Melbourne Australia

I am banging my head again.

I need help with any sort of information about Welney - church, BMD transcripts, village life or references 1800+, places to contact for further help - anything. 
I know this is where my ancestor was born in 1815 - from an IGI transcript that no longer is there - and nothing else.
The surnames I am interested in are RUMBLE  and KETTLE.

  I am smiling

[amber39]

On Freereg there are some Rumbles but no Kettles that I could find.  ( a some what  amusing sentence I have just realised, sorry about that)

All events are at St Mary the Virgin  Church  Welney.

Robert Rumble bp.27/8/1810    Father Robert,   Mother Catherine.

Susannah bp12/8/1810   Same parents

John  bp 3/11/1811       Father William     Mother Elizabeth


Marriages  18/10/1787
John Rumble  Bachelor  =   Elizabeth Leeds  Spinster
Witnesses     Adam Blackwell  and Gabriel Scott
Bride and Groom signed with a mark

25/3/1811
Elizabeth Rumble    =    William Ambrose
Witnesses Morley Beart  and Thomas Horn  also John Loveday
Bride and Groom made their mark

I hope this might be helpful.


Regards   Amber39

[Annette7]

I note on the 1851 Census that there is a William Rumble b.1815 Welney - is this your ancester?

Since Welney is on the border with Cambridgeshire there seems to be some confusion over which county it is in - on the census it shows both.

There are submitted entries on the Cambs. IGI showing that William was born/baptised 20/8/1815 Welney, son of Robert and Catherine.   Robert Rumble married Catherine Hurst 20/11/1804 Welney.   Again from submitted entries Robert is shown bc.1785 Wenley, son of John and Elizabeth Lord - wonder is this surname should read Leeds.   Perhaps Robert was born prior to the marriage. 

They seem to be the only Rumble family that were in Welney.

Annette

[penshurst]

Many thanks for putting in the time to find this information for me.

My interest is Mary Rumble born 1815 Welney - father Samuel - mother Sarah.
This was on the IGI then disappeared.

Somehow I have discovered Sarah's surname was Kettle but may be Kiddle as this seems to be a commoner surname for the area.

Was the earlier church in Welney still called St Marys?

Mary married a King [surname not title or I wouldn't be having all this trouble] perhaps in Swaffham about 1835 but have not found any record of this.

I think Samuel dies in Swaffham Bridewell but do not know how to find where any existing records may be.  I have been told the surgeons reports listed deaths.

 many questions 

[Annette7]

Mary Rumble's baptism is still on the IGI - bp.7/1/1815 Welney, dau. of Samuel and Sarah, as was a sibling's - Maria bp.28/1/1817.   

Samuel Rumble married Sarah Keddle 16/8/1814 Welney (St. Mary the Virgin).

It seems that between 1817 and 1822 the family moved to Northwold, Norfolk which is close by.   On 1/12/1822 3 daughters were baptised on the same day - Matilda, Hannah and Maria - shown as dau.'s of Samuel and Sarah Kettle.   I feel sure that this is the same Samuel and Sarah and that the surname is probably Keddle and not Kettle.

In 1851 - at Northwold - Samuel is living with married dau. Matilda (now Oliver) and her family.   He is shown as bc.1787 Northwold.   However, Northwold doesn't seem to be well covered on-line I'm afraid and it may well mean a check of the original parish records to pursue him further.

You say Mary married a Mr. King - however, I can't find a Mary King born Welney on the census so what happened to her after she married?   What was her husband full name?

Annette

[peggypatch]

No Mary Rumble (or any variant spelling) marrying a man named King on the Norfolk marriage index 1801-1837

[penshurst]

Again a thank you for all the generous help.      

Every snippet of information does hejp build up a picture of thiese people.

I often wonder what the ancestors would think about all this 'prying' into their life.

[Renae]

 Hi Annette,
                  To clear some things up for you , we know that Mary was a convict transported to Tasmania and also her mother Sarah was a convict  transported to NSW. Mary left behind husband and 1 son. We don' have the husbands name only "King".
           Now  you have given me info on what happened to Samuel. Thanks

Renae

[Annette7]

Renae

Thank you for thinking of this update but I did have a PM from Penshurst explaining all.   However, I understand Mary was a widow with one child so no living husband left behind.

Annette