John Ogle and Rosanna Hughes

[rdarby]

My ancestor John Ogle was transported to Australia in 1840 for stealing 4 "flitches" of bacon. His wife went to work as a house servant and the children were put a workhouse (Alnwick Union Workhouse) I found them in the 1841 census.
In 1850 Rosannnah brought the family out to Australia (Hobart) and I have a copy of a letter she wrote to the Colonial Secretary complaining about the treatment the children received!
After John received his Conditional Pardon, they went to Port Fairy, Victoria (it was known as "Belfast" in those days)
I have yet to start searching for John's trial records etc. I was wondering if anyone else had an interest in Ogles from Northumberland and suspect it is not an uncommon name in this area?
Roger

[diddymiller]

Hi Roger, the basic info about Johns conviction is on A*

John Ogle age 38 born about 1802. date of trial 2/7/1840 at the County Sessions
crime: Larceny 2 convictions.  sentence: 7 years each conviction

Northumberland collections records can be found at:
 
Woodhorn
Queen Elizabeth II Country Park
Ashington
NE63 9YF
England

Tel: 01670 528080
 
Email: collections(at)woodhorn.org.uk

Diddy
 

[diddymiller]

Roger, it may be your tree on A*. if not there is this further info:

John Ogle was transported to Tasmania penal colony aboard the ship" LAYTON " Embarked 9th April 1841 from London...Arr:1st Sept 1841

Diddy

[diddymiller]

also has this image prob from his arrest?/transportaion?

Moderator comment: image removed

[rdarby]

Yep, that's his convict sheet from VanDiemen's Land.
Thanks for the info on Woodhorn, I'll get in touch with them for sure.
Are there any further records from the Alnwick Union workhouse? Where would they be kept?
And if anyone looking thinks they may have a connection to John...
Roger

[diddymiller]

Hi Roger, if you go to the workhouses site at:

http://www.workhouses.org.uk/

and put Alnwick in the search box there is info there and maps/plans. it also lists which records are held at Woodhorn.

Diddy

[Ogleway]

Hi Roger,
Just to say that the name Ogle is unusual and not too many about.
Going to send you a PM, not too helpful, but may be in future!
Ogleway

[Wilkinson]

My Grandmother on my mother's side was called Isabella Johnson Ogle and lived in Seaton Delaval and New Hartley.  I have traced the line back to Matthew Ogle born about 1806 to his death in about 1843. Occupation was a "mason" In 1841 together with his wife Elizabeth they were living in Hutchinson Buildings in Tynemouth.  Matthew was born in Northumberland according to the census.  He actually died in London and we suspect he went looking for work in the capitol. Have not had time to look into this further.
There is of course a place in Northumberland called Ogle - There was once a castle there.
Who knows whether there is a link with your family but yes Ogle is an unusual name

[rdarby]

My Grandmother on my mother's side was called Isabella Johnson Ogle and lived in Seaton Delaval and New Hartley.  I have traced the line back to Matthew Ogle born about 1806 to his death in about 1843. Occupation was a "mason" In 1841 together with his wife Elizabeth they were living in Hutchinson Buildings in Tynemouth.  Matthew was born in Northumberland according to the census.  He actually died in London and we suspect he went looking for work in the capitol. Have not had time to look into this further.
There is of course a place in Northumberland called Ogle - There was once a castle there.
Who knows whether there is a link with your family but yes Ogle is an unusual name

I have recently discovered that John had 3 siblings, George,Joseph and Martha, but haven't seen the name Matthew anywhere. Maybe cousins..?
Roger