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Crewe Railway workers
« on: Friday 30 October 09 17:33 GMT (UK) »
Hi everyone

I am after some info on the railways in Crewe, as my g grandfather was an engine fitter and his father was an engine driver, in the 1800's. On one of the census records 1911, it says he was Railway loco lif engine fitter, what's LIF, any ideas, or am i having a dim moment? It seems my g grandfathers sons (my nannas brothers) also worked on the trains, 2 were firemen and one was a cleaner at 18, so could have worked his way up.

Any information at all would be appreciated

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Theresa
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Re: Crewe Railway workers
« Reply #1 on: Friday 30 October 09 18:37 GMT (UK) »
LIF loco inspection fitter, but that is just a guess. A fitter could not work his way up to be a driver as the two grades were in entirely different lines of promotion. A fitter was usually a fully apprenticed tradesman who had served a seven year apprenticeship somewhere in the engineering trade. In many respects as a result of their apprenticeship and tradesman status they were often not regarded as full railway workers, and had entirely different wage, promotional, and conditions of employment structures to the rest of the rail industry. He could only become a driver if he resigned from his trade and started again as an engine cleaner. To do this he had to be under 25, and frankly nuts! The footplate staff had this promotional structure, cleaner, cleaner passed for firing, fireman, fireman passed for driving and driver. Some lines had an intermediate grade of shunting driver. To join under 25, over 5feet 4inches, physically fit with 6/6 eyesight and normal colour vision. Subject to medicals throughout career at 5 yearly intervals and on promotion, which was by seniority subject to passing technical exams. I could go on, but don't want to bore the viewers. Will try to answer any questions.
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Re: Crewe Railway workers
« Reply #2 on: Friday 30 October 09 19:15 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for that,  is there anywhere were i can get photo's or details of workers on the lines, do you know?  I'm getting bored of just looking for people now, i want to add flesh to the bones, if i can.

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Re: Crewe Railway workers
« Reply #3 on: Friday 30 October 09 19:22 GMT (UK) »
Some rail workers details are at the National Archives, Kew, staff records are limited for most companies, but the LMS of which the London North Western Railway, based at Crewe was part is one of the better represented companies. Try googling SSPL Prints, they have a very large number of railway photos, once there enter "Crewe" and see what comes up.
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Re: Crewe Railway workers
« Reply #4 on: Friday 30 October 09 19:26 GMT (UK) »
I'm on to it now, thanks again

Theresa
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Re: Crewe Railway workers
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 31 October 09 21:43 GMT (UK) »
Have you tried :

South Cheshire Family History Society (Crewe Group) http://www.fhsc.org.uk/  who are located in Crewe Library
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The Cheshire Records Office at Chester http://www.cheshire.gov.uk/Recordoffice/home.htm I know these have the staff records from Crewe Works covering that period'.
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The staff history/roll of honour search of the LNWR Society  http://www.lnwrs.org.uk/SHG/index.php,

If you post the names your looking for I might be able to search a couple of places

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Re: Crewe Railway workers
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 01 November 09 08:14 GMT (UK) »
Hi Glynn

I'm not sure if i'm barking up the wrong tree, but the names are:-

Samuel Cooper (father)
Arthur Gregory Cooper (son)
Charley Cooper  (grandson, and as it is spelt on the census)
George Cooper (grandson)
Alfred Cooper (grandson)

Charley George and Alfred were all born in Walsall though and not Crewe, this is why i'm not sure if i'm barking up the wrong tree or not.

Thanks for the links that you sent me, i will go on them later today, and thanks for the offer for searching a couple of places. Much appreciated


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« Reply #7 on: Sunday 01 November 09 13:15 GMT (UK) »
Walsall, Birmingham is also on the same railway route, the London Northwestern Railway, so if the other detail seems correct I shouldn't let this deter you.
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« Reply #8 on: Sunday 01 November 09 14:16 GMT (UK) »

Thanks for that Red, will keep trying to find anything out that i can.  Am going to try the links that Glynn sent me and see how i get on. 

When i contacted the Bedfordshire archives about another branch of my tree, they were very helpful and i found out a lot of information due to their help, so lets hope the same goes for the Cheshire Records Office.

Thanks again
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