hankins

[dalek39]

Funny thing..My mother was born in NZ..my father was in the Army, but not an officer...what a coincidence eh?..

[dalek39]

I would like to close down this Hankins thread...but also ...would like to thank all involved for their effort in helping us..we could not have achieved what we have without you.... We do appreciate your assistance...all the best...Dalek..and Glamis...

[Glamis]

Yes, Thanks to all who have helped. It is another great result that started for me and my Mum regarding Lieut.Col. James Dalrymple. After all, It has connected me with Dalek39; my cousin whom I would not have met otherwise. This is just amazing. My Mum is completely intrigued. All of 'our' finds have yielded such interesting information and I am grateful for the help and interest shown. Thanks again.

[kazlee82]

Hey guys, interesting reading everything you have found out!. I am wondering if by any chance, you came accross a Charles Leonard Leamon Hankins. He was the son of Charles Hankins and Alice Hankins (Leamon).
Charles LL Hankins was taken off his parents at 7 due child abuse. When he grew up he married Marjorie Grenfell Milford and they went on to have many children.

Any help would be great:)

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[valerieb1959]

If you are still looking for Hannah Maria Hankins brother of John Herbert Hankins? Hannah was also known as Anna and Annie.

Annie Maria Hankins married another Hankins, Edward. Edward Hankins is descendant from the Greenhouse Hankins. Son of William Henry Hankins who passed away at Greenhouse in 1829. He was married to Jane Jones of Altibilla or Alta bella house. Edward migrated with his first wife and then emigrated to Adelaide in 1852. He later emigrated to NZ with his wife Mary Ann nee Williams where she died on West Coast. He later had 3 children with Annie Maria but they only pretended to be married since they had same surname. They were not married until much later in Auckland where her 3 young children were raised. Edward died young at 55yrs 1885 at Auckland leaving his wife destitute.

This is my daughters paternal line. Her father and grandfather were born in Auckland. Her Great grandfather Alfred Nelson Hankins was born in Nelson.

[Glamis]

Hi ValerieB1959. I am always interested in the various family connections. Thank You very much for this information. I am descended from John Herbert Hankins so if I understand you correctly; Hannah Maria Hankins was his sister which means your daughter and her Father are cousins of mine.

[Glamis]

I hadn't seen Kazlee82's information posted some while ago and it has raised a memory of my Mother mentioning an 'Uncle Charles'. I will speak to her and ask if she can recall anything about him. I also recall something about child abuse and a little boy but again will clarify this and get back to you.

[valerieb1959]

Yes Glamis

My daughter Emma Hankins, her father Peter John Hankins, (ex husband), his father Norman Harold Hankins, His father Alfred Nelson Hankins, His parent Annie Maria Hankins and Edward Hankins. All old fathers hence not many generations.
I had an inkling that maybe john Herbert Hankins and his sis may have been estranged. If you look at the electoral rolls for west coast you will see John Herbert and Edward Hankins were associated. I assume that is how Edward met Annie maria but he was much older and married. His wife died when they were living on west  coast. Annie and Edward always claimed they married 5 dec 1879 at wellington and this is recorded on Alfred Nelson Hankins birth cert. NOT SO. they married 19 Sept 1884 in Auckland after the children were born and only 1 year before Edward died.
He seemed to be a bit of a charmer, certainly less than honest. His obituary can be located on paperspast but the claims don't always check out. Lots of bankrupcy, bad business relationships, and general financial mismanagement on rather a prolific scale. He was a sports journalist and involved in horse racing therefore, i have come to the conclusion he could well have been a gambler.
He was well known and ultimately  left his wife destitute with 3 small toddlers. I could not understand why perhaps her brother John Herbert did not help her since he was so successful but it maybe because he disapproved of the involvement. Would not surprise me given Edward's instability.

[Glamis]

Hi ValerieB1959, Well all of this supports a Hankins family theme of all of these things; Bankruptcy being a major feature. All things farming, wheeling and dealing and Horse racing was also a significant one given that one brother was killed in one major New Zealand race. Again, I'll need to search that one out and his name but it is also in Paperspast somewhere. I think he may have been William but don't quote me on that as it may be wrong. J H Hankins was at one time a Grand Master of the Masonic Lodge at Kilwinning and he held a lot of esteem in that. His wife who was very grand indeed was likely to be one reason he didn't involve himself in 'other' family connections which is sad. He was the oldest child of the 10 and as such in my opinion should have had a purpose as the family figurehead position.My Mother recalls an Uncle Hankins ( the name escapes me for now) who was a butcher and whilst she never met him she knew her older Sister Ruth did which is why My Mum became aware of his existence. He for one was never included in J H Hankins' family matters which my Mother attributes to his station at the time. J H Hankins and his Wife Agnes were rubbing noses with those who were and those who would if they could be. My Mother describes her Granny Hankins as an austere lady , very Victorian towards the children in that they dare not speak unless they were spoken to and no children were allowed home to play other than those who were vetted and deemed acceptable etc etc. That was a rare occurrence anyway. ( My Mother lived with her Granny and Grand Father for a few years in her young life) J H Hankins would have been apart from all of this busy building his law firm and his connections.He had at some point returned to Scotland to Kilwinning to do his law degree but this is something I still need to find the evidence for as it is anecdotal evidence that my Mother has given me.The other problem is that the Hankins family as with many Victorians had the most annoying habit of using the same names over and over again.Sifting through the Williams and the Edwards etc has made it very confusing all along. Hannah Maria who arrived in New Zealand with William Hankins and their 10 children died young leaving William with the brood. J H Hankins was 17 at this time. William had left Hereford in England as a Licensee and prior to that had been from farming stock. He arrived in New Zealand giving his profession as a Veterinary Surgeon. It isn't a surprise to me that he didn't do well from the event of the death of his wife and that the children scattered in different directions after that. It was a very harsh life back then and one of survival of the fittest in the truest sense as Darwin describes.