hankins

[KirstyG]

Re Richard Hankins

I have found a number of records, but it will take a bit of sorting out to find if they belong to your family, and if so which generation.

There is a Will from Herefordshire which could have been his father's, but you would have to prove that in the parish records.

http://www.englandspastforeveryone.org.uk/webdav/assetdetails?asset=851

A link to the deeds mentioned by Chilis
http://www.familydeeds.org/HD40491.php

http://cityark.medway.gov.uk/query/results/?Mode=Search;SearchWords=Herefordshire
An index reference to title deeds (in legalese!)

There is a death notice in The London magazine, or, Gentleman's monthly intelligencer, Volume 39 for a Richard Hankins Esq, which would at least give a date to start searching from.

You may find as you go further back that the spelling varies. I have just seen a reference to a Richard Hankyns/Hankins - in 1455!

[Glamis]

Yes KirstyG, J H Hankins was indeed rather well placed in NZ society and remains as such. I know about his masonic past. I have written to the lodges in NZ where he was a mason and to the one in Hereford which is now combined with Warwickshire to ask if they have any info on JH Hankins and Hankins respectively. They have not responded. I have not been able to find him connected in Scotland as yet. However, I have a thought that this may have been where he spent a year finalising his law studies before returning to NZ. Not sure yet so don't quote me, its just a hunch. Of his Hankins Shield; A lawyer I spoke to very recently had won it himself once. My Mum has many memories she shares of him. She recalls him as a kind gentle man. There is a charicature of him and his partners by Munro. The firm of Fitzherbert Rowe sent me a copy of it. It is quite amusing and portrays him as a wizened old man with a walking stick and from memory ?Pipe. Well found with the Will info, Thanks. Speaking of Wills, J H Hankins' Will says he was born 13/06/1846, Swinburn, Hereford having arrived in NZ 1863. This puts the ship passenger list date out a bit but I don't think that matters. I'd go with the date of the voyage. It also means the age he was said to have been is very slightly wrong. Again it doesn't really matter. What does is that we know its them.

[Chilis]

Right, Dalek39 and Glamis
I have found some bits of information this morning and these confirm the details of the 1841 census, when William and John HANKINS were in the household of Richard HANKINS at Bartestree Court.  I had been worried about the ages, as the 1841 ages were approx for adults (rounded up or down) and Richard could conceivably have been 'grandfather'.

Richard died in Bartestree in October 1841.  Lucky we caught him in the census earlier in that year!  An announcement of his death, nothing else, was in the Hereford Journal.

I found the burial of Ann Maria, Richard's wife and that of a baby son Edward in 1824 and it would appear that Ann Maria died following childbirth.  She was aged 44.

I also have a copy of Richard's Will and he names three sons, Richard, John and William, so I have been correct in my assumptions in earlier postings.

The relevant burials won't be on the Monumental Inscriptions lists, as those have not yet been done, so if I have time, I'll take a look in the churchyard tomorrow, taking my wellington boots with me.

Since I shall not be going away until early Monday, I'll keep adding a few bits as time permits.
Chilis
 

[Glamis]

Good Heavens, Chillis. Thank you for doing this. I hadn't realised you were actually on the origional Hankins' doorstep. I'm nice but slow and or dim- didn't inherit his or his father's brain cells! This is even better so I can pay my respects if you do find them there.

[Chilis]

Yes, Glamis
Im pretty certain that Richard HANKINS (the senior one) has a brother, William buried there also, so I hope to at least have four family members to report on.  We'll see.  I can pinpoint both their christenings and another generation back in the same area, but I can't find either marrying within Herefordshire.

There are various documents/deeds/mortgages etc. relevant to these people, but it takes time to make sure they are the right HANKINS.  Nevertheless, this line seems to have owned several large farms in Herefordshire which can be pinpointed.  Be patient....
Chilis

[dalek39]

Thank you Chillis and KirstyG for all that information..have not recieved as much lately.. wonder if its because of this "lock" on my computer, which I did not put on..I received notice from one of the "top" moderators that she had put a lock on to stop confusion...Unfortunately, as I was so new at this, I did not understand how to go about things, so if I caused any "confusion" I apologise..
Glamis...sorry about all  the same messages coming in repeated..but, as I found out, my computer was playing up..and sending out the same message 5 times..I did not know this till I received notice from my friends wondering what I was doing...please let me know if this happens again..I will attend to it....
Re the Hankins news, I have all that, except Richards death..I felt that John Hankins may have  lived at Hagley Hall, he did..but not the one we thought..At least that gave me a laugh It was Hagley Hall..at Hagley,, and apparently owned by the father, maybe his father.. so thank you so much for that confirmation...
As for this lock..does that stay with me, or can I get rid of it...or does that have to be done at your end....??
And...KirstyG..I looked at all that info you gave me, especially the Herefordshire newspapers, and found that quite interesting.. thanks for that....
So..once again..folks..thanks for all the help...I really do appreciate it.

[dalek39]

Richard Hankins did have a brother..William Bartholomew Hankins, born 1818 Bartestree Hereford.. and another brother Edward Hankins, born 1824 Bartestree herefordshire...and there is an Elizabeth there , but I'm not sure if she was John Hankins daughter or his sister...
And..I have a Anne Hall as mother, born around Dormington , which is close to Bartestree, and married a Richard Hankins, in Dormington in 1809..but the date worries me.. I'm working on that....cheers

[dalek39]

I went to refer to the messages that came in over night from KirstyG and Chillis, and they have all be deleted.....Is this my computer playing up again, have they been removed?

[Glamis]

Oh Dear so have mine. I was only answering about 30 minutes ago. What's happened?