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Re: Mortimers of Horton
« Reply #63 on: Tuesday 19 January 10 18:58 GMT (UK) »
I was at Wakefield WYAS Archive on business this afternoon and had a hour to spare so went into the register of deeds room!, I had a look at the deeds index volume 1704-1714 and there are no deeds in the Mortimer surname of any first name. Then had a look in the deeds Will book register  1689  to 1858 and found an amendment and final Last Will and Testament of Daniel Mortimer amendment to his 1775 Will.

West Yorkshire Archives Service Wakefield - Yorkshire register of Deeds office

Year 1778 Volume C B Page 305 Deed Will number 481



If you want a copy of this Will - it will cost £8 plus P&P.

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« Reply #64 on: Thursday 21 January 10 10:07 GMT (UK) »
Typical! When I've just transcribed the will I had.  £8 is a lot for a codicil! From looking at the original, I would guess it has something to do with his son, Richard Mortimer, to whom in the original will he only left 1 shilling, when all the other children were getting several pounds, or property.   Richard had to pay back £30 before he got his share of the residue.  He had already been given a property in 1763, so I suppose the £30 was to compensate his siblings???

Anyway, I'm more interested now in finding out what happened to Hannah Mortimer. she was married to Daniel's great grandson Joseph.  He divorced her in 1860 - early '61.  She is on the April 7th 1861 census, alone, as a boarder,("married") having being deprived of her husband, position, and 3 sons.  Joseph remarries in November 1861  - to the Governess....and says he is a "Widower".  I've already spent £7 on a wrong guess from the 4 Hannah Mortimers and 1 Hannah Kennedy (maiden name) it could be - but then maybe Joseph was lying on the certificate, rather than say "divorced".  Whatever her faults, I can't help feeling sorry for her. Maybe I'll have another go when I've given it a little time - and forgotten how much I've already spent on this business!!

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« Reply #65 on: Thursday 21 January 10 10:43 GMT (UK) »
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Yes can be expensive. I didn't mention any of the content of the Will as to to leave you too have the enjoyment of the original copy but now will reveal it was only waffle over property and no extra names added or subtract. (To what you gave above)

'Gen*s Reun*ted' have 4 trees with Daniel Mortimer Sr bapt 1696 Bradford WY. I think their trees stop with him  but he would be 30 in 1726 marriage being not a guess age as married age 21= bapt year leaving guess at bapt 1705 (The early Bradford parish registers are in a right old state though !!!!!)

With no Mortimer's having Deeds to property 1704 ( ALL West Yorkshire earliest deeds year recorded) to 1714 your theory of Daniel SR born/bapt outside West Yorkshire would fit. (Reason I looked at the deeds)
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« Reply #66 on: Thursday 21 January 10 11:08 GMT (UK) »
Post 1837 is not my Forte (I'm  not subscribed to census websites [do odd ones as library free census access  :( ]as archives pre 1837 is my Fun )


This link= They would love your Hannah brickwall)


FUN!!!! hey! they may find sumat !! :D


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« Reply #67 on: Thursday 21 January 10 11:23 GMT (UK) »
Thanks again for your help - might give it a go.

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« Reply #68 on: Thursday 21 January 10 11:53 GMT (UK) »
Daniel Sr Bap and his dad is now!!! a personal issue with me now! to find! like a itch in the middle of ones back one can't quit reach.................itch.
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« Reply #69 on: Thursday 21 January 10 17:16 GMT (UK) »
Gen*s Reun*ted

A Sally has Hannah Kennedy born Ireland and Joseph Mortimer born Bradford
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« Reply #70 on: Friday 22 January 10 08:25 GMT (UK) »
Hi, Yes thanks, am in touch with her - she is my grandmother's brother's granddaughter.

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« Reply #71 on: Friday 22 January 10 09:33 GMT (UK) »
OK! All I can think of! Hannah moved back to Ireland or Died there before 1860/1 Joe's 2nd marriage or later years after a divorce.
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