Mortimers of Horton

[Myrrh]

  Oh my God!! Now you're just showing off!  Am I never to get any housework done???

Thank you so much, Dobby, and thank you too to our Australian friend for her input.  I'll take a closer look at trying to fit it together.  After the vacuuming of course

I see a copy of a will by a John Mortimer is mentioned - I'd love to see that, hope they have some kind of online service - I'll take a look - I'm stuck in Ireland....

I did look at some of these sites, and I found them fascinating, like the father who leased a house, shop and garden to his son for 1000 yrs on rent of one red rose a year. aaaah 

Thanks again,

Mary

[dobfarm]

 Don't think J Edgar Hover!   had a Son called Vac . but will have a look.

[dobfarm]

Hi Mary

The object is to try and find the families that were producing siblings 1720/30 ish in and around Shelf/Horton/Wisbey/Heaton/Thornton(Clayton) in the South ring road of Bradford being the afore said list West to Northowram Halifax Queensbury area but also East of Wisbey towards North Brierley and Tong (Pudsey)towards Leeds West

U  (bottom[South] of Bradford and follow modern ring road east & west )shape from Huddersfield Rd around Bradford south (Otsal Top)

See Map
from this find the James Dad or Daniel's son James or Brother.who was with Daniel at Sobey Lane end or Lower whichfield (wells) slack

[Myrrh]

  That's simple then

I have found the birth date of the John Mortimer, who married Judith and died in 1742 in Shelf.  He was born in 1680, according to LDS, but no parents quoted.  I will keep pootling off and on, but I'm away for a few days from Thursday - and I'm a volunteer BMD Transcriber - haven't done anything for a couple of weeks.  Must do some before I go.

If I find a viable line of descent, I'll of course let you know. Thanks again.

Mary

[dobfarm]

Hi, Mary

Don't know where to start really as the plot is more mysterious.

Clayton Thorton parish of St James has a Bap-Mar-Burials of a sort! on the fiche are a right old state of affairs with Bapts Marriages and Burials all mixed up. Pages upside down! some shooting off at angles! bits of pages torn off (or droped off) and stuck on a page but no ref to dates. But have found  Danial Mortimer all mixed up in it also John of shelf.

 X  means unreadable letters
Also Bradford Cathedral Has a duplicate entry.

Sub Parish clayton/wisbey

 XX June 1723  DaXxx of  Daxxxl XXXx Mortimer of Bradford

Thornon St James
Well here goes Page 98 top  left corner 

 --------------      Torn off                "Clayton for Mary
                         Torn off      .. Mortimer June 19 1722 or 3
                                           ,,,,,,,,,,,Torn off...........or wear...................

[dobfarm]

Hi Mary

Read this Link Date March 1723 at Clayton Thorton St James Parish Church

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=423804.msg2888122#msg2888122

[dobfarm]

OK Mary

Had full day at this at the Library


Samuel Mortimer bapt 20 Feb 1780 of John Mortimer Wibsey Weaver Bradford.

John Mortimer bapt 16th Nov 1748 Of Daniel Mortimer  Junior   of Heaton Bradford
 (no Occ given)

John Mortimer Married by Banns to Martha Rookes 9th August 1779 in Bradford
 St Peter Church and Both of the parish of Bradford

Danial Mortimer Bapt 7th June 1723 Father Daniel of Clayton Thornton Sub Chapelry  of St Peter Bradford (Parish entry is very poor but just vaguely readable)

Daniel married & Ann Rushworth married at St peter Bradrord 20th Jan 1747 as IGI Parish
church register not on fiche but on B/Trans at York Borthwick institute Chapelry unknown yet

Father Daniel sn'r needs more Study as Bapt unknown and I think married twice first unknown to a Deborah
and She died 1723 March (son Daniel birth maybe) Daniel 2nd marriage to Dorothy Scott 2nd Dec 1724

There is no record of Daniel Senior at Bradford or Clayton prior to 1723 and suspect Northowram
 Halifax may hold this info


foot note:- St James Thornton Chapel has its own little parish register that looks like it been through the Wars and in a right old state of affairs with scribles ( Clerk trying to work out the year April to March) upside down entries of events other than BMD's also little torn note's stuck on with a few mouse holes & ink blots.(Looks like my school books age 10.)

Dave

[Myrrh]

    Hi Dave,  This is so kind of you. (I think you must have some Jack Russell Terrier in your F. Tree  )

So I'm looking for Daniel's marriage to Deborah and his birth.  You'll have me back to Charlemagne yet

[dobfarm]

http://www.archive.org/stream/nonconformistreg00heyw/nonconformistreg00heyw_djvu.txt

http://www.archive.org/stream/manninghamheaton00cudwuoft/manninghamheaton00cudwuoft_djvu.txt

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=4ed70b69e272f2e6d4eaa9b7e545be61&action=printpage;topic=83143.0

LINKS ABOUT LOCATIONS and MORTIMER'S IN GENERAL

Hi Mary- Home work over Xmas

Carolus Magnus -No'p -Franks or Normans- NEVER

Maybe the Vikings-maybe but Saxons most likely or Kelt's.
........................................
LANDS west to  North West of Bradford

See Google map for Shelf then find Allerton and connecting roads.

Enter ' Whichfield, Queensbury' first
 -then -'Whichfield, Queensbury, Mortimer ' in google search.


Put Danial Mortimer in the Search engine the afore said archive in York's 'Cottages at Allerton &(Cum) Wilsden' and Google books as afore said ' Soper Lane ends Whichfield".

Black Smith is mentioned also your Daniel Death is a Blacksmith FindMyPast!

You'll find the area of Allerton and Whichfield Shelf.


The point of this is we are looking at Whichfield Hall Shelf Queenbury Halifax & Bradford area and Allerton & Widsden Queensbury!Northowram also to Manningham & Shipley including Cottingley.

Dave