Quinlisk - member of Casement's Irish Brigade

[mefein]

Thank you for that. I found your website most interesting. Carry on with the good work. Do you intend to research all 55? Not many people in Ireland knew Casement tried to form the Irish Brigade.

[corisande]

Do you intend to research all 55? Not many people in Ireland knew Casement tried to form the Irish Brigade.

I have started with the "easiest" members of the Irish Brigade to research, and will try to cover all of them.

Some of it is difficult as all I have is a name to go on, and the name will be a common Irish name, so is difficult to pin down. I am happy that the list that I have of all the members of the Irish brigade is (almost) correct

It is a subject that is quite difficult to get information, without people on either side getting upset for one reason or another

[corisande]

A United Press report that I have now been given, was published 6 days after Quinlisk's death.

I have added it  to my page on Quinlisk

It is interesting that they had that report so quickly from whoever in the IRA was giving them information. As with all things in the press, it is difficult to know what spin has been put on the report.

[mefein]

That is surely a spin. Mick Murphy said nothing about a courtmartial. I don't think a courtmartial was held in the field in Ballyphehane. If you find any members of the Irish Brigade from Cork let me know.

[mefein]

And if Quinlisk stood in the middle, I dont think he would have gone off with Mick Murphy etc. as he did.

[Oaks and Acorns]

Fascinating stuff.

55 eventually agreed to join, not enough to form an active entity.

Is that a quote from Casement or are you paraphrasing what was said?

I ask the question because we are talking about the phase in Irish history when the old ideas of military confrontation (on a grand scale) were dying and the birth of modern Guerilla Tactics was in its infancy.

If I interpret your comment correctly, it would seem that Casement was of the 'Old School'?

Do I read you correctly?

Dara.

[corisande]

it would seem that Casement was of the 'Old School'

I do not think that in any way did Casement try to form a "guerrilla" brigade. The intention was to uniform and arm them as "conventional" soldiers

I have never really understood the thing that Irishmen of all complexions at that time had with uniforms, but Casement spent a fortune on the uniforms of the Irish Brigade. And when you look at the Volunteer Uniforms of the time. You could almost say that Orangemen were dowdy in comparison!

[mefein]

Please can someone explain the details on Quinlisk's card
14/Star Retd.(1743 K.R. 1912) 8153/Adt.
and
Qualifying date 13.8.19
and
items in the Stamped  - Medal etc.

[corisande]

The "qualifying date is 13 Aug 1914, that means that he landed in France on that date. To be eligible for the 1914 Star the soldier had to spend so many days in a "war zone" in that year. So they recorded when he arrived

The items in the stamped section are references to the actual entries for those medals, each one has its own book with more date - the card is just an index card pointing to where the "real" data is stored.

Any soldier who served overseas was entitled to the British Medal and Victory medal, The criteria were very loose, and literally millions qualified.

The 1914 Star appears to have been returned for adjustment - someone with more knowledge than I can tell you the exact bit of the Kings Regulations quoted. You may have to put your own post in the WW1 forum on Rootschat to find someone that can tell you.