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Re: Shoemakers, Bootmakers, Saddler and Harness Makers
« Reply #99 on: Monday 02 May 11 11:18 BST (UK) »
A cordwainer doesn't just make shoes, they work in soft leather and suede also making bags, belts etc as well as shoes.  The name cordwainer comes from Cordoba, Andalusia in Spain where the craft (and leather work) originated.  Big difference between the two.

See Cordwainers College, Mare Street, London.   http://www.fashion.arts.ac.uk/5058.htm

My daughter who studied there many years ago made her own wedding dress out of pale stone coloured suede - beautiful!  ;D
Ireland, Co Antrim: Kerr; Hollinger; Forsythe; Moore
Ireland, Co Louth: Carson; Leslie
Ireland, Co Kerry: Ferris
Scotland, Perthshire/Glasgow:  Stewart
England, Devon/Cornwall: Ferris, Gasser/Jasser/Jesser, Norman

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« Reply #100 on: Monday 02 May 11 12:52 BST (UK) »
that's what I said, shoes and leather goods.

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Re: Shoemakers, Bootmakers, Saddler and Harness Makers
« Reply #101 on: Monday 02 May 11 13:02 BST (UK) »
You miss my point, a shoemaker only makes shoes and boots, not bags, purses, belts and other goods.  A cordwainer would be very offended at being called a shoemaker!   ;)
Ireland, Co Antrim: Kerr; Hollinger; Forsythe; Moore
Ireland, Co Louth: Carson; Leslie
Ireland, Co Kerry: Ferris
Scotland, Perthshire/Glasgow:  Stewart
England, Devon/Cornwall: Ferris, Gasser/Jasser/Jesser, Norman

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« Reply #102 on: Monday 02 May 11 16:44 BST (UK) »
Thankyou fifer1947 for explaining the difference. Always thought there was a distinction. Will check out the web site later. Was very surprised to know there is a college. Bet your daughters dress was absolutely beautiful.
Makes me wonder where my paternal g'mothers father    learned his trade, as he was born in Fife, Scotland before moving to Worcs.
Once again thanks.
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« Reply #103 on: Monday 02 May 11 17:32 BST (UK) »
Thankyou fifer1947 for explaining the difference. Always thought there was a distinction. Will check out the web site later. Was very surprised to know there is a college. Bet your daughters dress was absolutely beautiful.
Makes me wonder where my paternal g'mothers father    learned his trade, as he was born in Fife, Scotland before moving to Worcs.
Once again thanks.

Back in the 17th century cordwainers made leather breeches for soldiers etc check it out.  Fabulous historical stuff.  ;D

There was a lot of traffic by sea up and down the East Coast historically, between London and Edinburgh in particular, which means there would likely be cordwainers in Edinburgh (just a step from Fife).

Sadly my lot (the Stewarts) were just tanners, boot and shoe makers.  :-[
Ireland, Co Antrim: Kerr; Hollinger; Forsythe; Moore
Ireland, Co Louth: Carson; Leslie
Ireland, Co Kerry: Ferris
Scotland, Perthshire/Glasgow:  Stewart
England, Devon/Cornwall: Ferris, Gasser/Jasser/Jesser, Norman

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« Reply #104 on: Monday 02 May 11 18:38 BST (UK) »
Fifer,

I stand corrected.

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Re: Shoemakers, Bootmakers, Saddler and Harness Makers
« Reply #105 on: Tuesday 03 May 11 18:31 BST (UK) »
This is wonderful information cant wait to get delving into it. Never knew any of my g'parents on either side or family prior to that. Got married and moved to USA many many yrs ago & after 'doing' my husbands family realised I didnt know mine so got started. Amazing results. 
Thanks for the info the web site is fantastic.
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Re: Shoemakers, Bootmakers, Saddler and Harness Makers
« Reply #106 on: Sunday 05 June 11 09:13 BST (UK) »
Hi, have you got your site off the ground, I have information for you if you have, regards Peter

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Re: Shoemakers, Bootmakers, Saddler and Harness Makers
« Reply #107 on: Thursday 22 September 11 21:36 BST (UK) »
Hi my 2xG Grandfather

James McInnes was born about 1844/5 in Edinburgh
1867 James’s occupation is a shoemaker & journeyman Selkirk.
1872 James is working as a boot maker.Perth
1879 James’s occupation is a boot & shoemaker Shetland.
1901 census James is an employer and is a boot repairer. Edinburgh

Mcstrings :)