Author Topic: Frank Albon- Frank Allen 1889-1964 British Home Children  (Read 11369 times)

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Re: Frank Albon- Frank Allen 1889-1964 British Home Children
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 22 October 09 18:29 BST (UK) »
DowneyD ...we are especially concerned about finding all we can about Home Children for those searching...If Frank knew his sister had arrived in Canada and was in Ontario, then that would have been a pull to stay East after the war. i likely won't find him after signup in 1916...but will still look

Here is our site for BHC, now updated with your two http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=355348.0

For others who may be searching...Mildred in 1911
http://www.automatedgenealogy.com/census11/SplitView.jsp?id=140799

Can you post the links of your Frank on the censuses, as I don't see him

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Re: Frank Albon- Frank Allen 1889-1964 British Home Children
« Reply #19 on: Thursday 22 October 09 19:44 BST (UK) »
I think that you have more information than you may think. You know that members of both Frank and Mildred's families lived in London, Ontario. You know the name of Mildred's daughter and who she married. The London Public Library will probably be able to help you with obituaries. If both Frank and Mildred were living in the London area, it is entirely possible they were in touch with each other. You have stated that Doris was contacted to inform her that one of her cousins (Frank's son) had died. Obviously the person who contacted her had a connection to both families.
I noticed something interesting on the 1911 census form through automated genealogy. The enumerator for the district was Malcolm McNeil. He could be the same person as head of the family where Mildred was a domestic servant.  If Mildred married this  Malcolm, probably after the death of his wife, he was 28 years older than her. He had sons older than her and his youngest son was a student teacher.
I also couldn't find anything on Frank Albon/Allen on either the 1901 or 1911 census so I would be interested in where you obtained census info. I did find a Frank Allen, right age, 1911, living in Winnipeg.
I think you need to organize the information that you have with all the dates, places and names. If this was my family I would definitely concentrate on London, ON.

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Re: Frank Albon- Frank Allen 1889-1964 British Home Children
« Reply #20 on: Thursday 22 October 09 21:51 BST (UK) »
Found Mildred going to Scotland.....

Mildred Albon
Occupation:  Domestic
Age:  22
Port of Departure:  Boston, Mass., USA & Halifax (she got on in Halifax)
Port of Arrival:  Glasgow, Scotland
Ship:  Hesperian
Date of Arrival:  December 20, 1913

She comes back to Canada......

Mildred Albon
Age:  22
Occupation:  Domestic
Destination:  Kerwood, Ontario
Date of Arrival:  March 21, 1914
Ship:  Alsatian
Port of Departure:  Liverpool, England
Port of Arrival:  Halifax, Nova Scotia

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Gandley (but known as Stanley in Canada)- Ireland to Birmingham<br />Ball, Kempson & Franklin - Birmingham<br />Shorter - Surrey<br />Dyer - Devon<br />Dawkins - Co. Cork, Ireland<br />Heffernan - Ireland
Huck - Alsace, France
Reinhart - Baden, Germany
Bowman & Ellis - England
Etheridge - Gloucestershire

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Re: Frank Albon- Frank Allen 1889-1964 British Home Children
« Reply #21 on: Thursday 22 October 09 22:14 BST (UK) »

I noticed something interesting on the 1911 census form through automated genealogy. The enumerator for the district was Malcolm McNeil. He could be the same person as head of the family where Mildred was a domestic servant.  If Mildred married this  Malcolm, probably after the death of his wife, he was 28 years older than her. He had sons older than her and his youngest son was a student teacher.


No, there are 2 Malcolm McNiel's.  If you look at the 1901 census, Malcolm who Mildred married is living with his parents Alexander and Katie, the other Malcolm that Mildred is working for in the 1911, is on the 1901 with his wife and children.

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Gandley (but known as Stanley in Canada)- Ireland to Birmingham<br />Ball, Kempson & Franklin - Birmingham<br />Shorter - Surrey<br />Dyer - Devon<br />Dawkins - Co. Cork, Ireland<br />Heffernan - Ireland
Huck - Alsace, France
Reinhart - Baden, Germany
Bowman & Ellis - England
Etheridge - Gloucestershire

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Re: Frank Albon- Frank Allen 1889-1964 British Home Children
« Reply #22 on: Thursday 22 October 09 22:17 BST (UK) »
This looks like a good match for Frank in the 1911 census.  He is a border living in Qu'Appelle, Saskatchewan.  His date of birth is Feb/1889.

http://www.automatedgenealogy.com/census11/SplitView.jsp?id=142949
Gandley (but known as Stanley in Canada)- Ireland to Birmingham<br />Ball, Kempson & Franklin - Birmingham<br />Shorter - Surrey<br />Dyer - Devon<br />Dawkins - Co. Cork, Ireland<br />Heffernan - Ireland
Huck - Alsace, France
Reinhart - Baden, Germany
Bowman & Ellis - England
Etheridge - Gloucestershire

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Re: Frank Albon- Frank Allen 1889-1964 British Home Children
« Reply #23 on: Thursday 22 October 09 22:19 BST (UK) »
Mildred and Malcolm are buried in Strathroy, Ontario

http://www.islandnet.com/ocfa/search.php

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Gandley (but known as Stanley in Canada)- Ireland to Birmingham<br />Ball, Kempson & Franklin - Birmingham<br />Shorter - Surrey<br />Dyer - Devon<br />Dawkins - Co. Cork, Ireland<br />Heffernan - Ireland
Huck - Alsace, France
Reinhart - Baden, Germany
Bowman & Ellis - England
Etheridge - Gloucestershire

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Re: Frank Albon- Frank Allen 1889-1964 British Home Children
« Reply #24 on: Thursday 22 October 09 22:34 BST (UK) »
You probably have this but if not the obit may say locale of Frank...
19 February 1941...so young...
c2 - Death of - Mrs Mildred Albon McNeil, 51st year, Feb 16, wife of Malcolm McNeil

http://www.elginogs.ca/newsindexes/timesjournal/sttj1941janthrujun.htm
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Re: Frank Albon- Frank Allen 1889-1964 British Home Children
« Reply #25 on: Thursday 22 October 09 22:45 BST (UK) »
http://www.rootschat.com/links/07bw/
Frank in 1901 with Wesley and Cora Lund.

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Re: Frank Albon- Frank Allen 1889-1964 British Home Children
« Reply #26 on: Saturday 24 October 09 00:10 BST (UK) »
Here's a site to read through regarding Joseph Henry as he was born "Ripley" and adopted by John Wesley Lund & Cora  Lund...
http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/l/u/n/Martin-B-Lund/WEBSITE-0001/UHP-0240.html

Note though that Sackville is in NewBrunswick, and Joseph is not in the household in 1881 ..just son Harry ( J.H. Ripley was born c.1876 )
Oh, I see it now the Ripley children were BORN in N.S. ( Amherst, Cumberland ) I see some children in 1881..but not Joseph...Just interested in him as he'd befriended your Frank. I imagine he felt for his situation, that's for sure...
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