Help please: immigration to Queensland DRUMMOND 1880s and 1890s

[eltelf]

Hi Ruskie,

Thanks a million - you have filled in some vital gaps. Very interesting to see that all these young women travelled as 'Free passengers'.

First vital piece of info:

Yes, there were two Catherine Drummonds - they were cousins, but I had not realised they had both emigrated.  They must have travelled out together  (you can see what I mean about the problems these Drummond brothers caused me by marrying sisters, and calling all their children by the same name!). The information I had re Kate arrived on the 'Duke of Norfolk' is obviously wrong. 

Second excellent bit of information:

Yes, you have confirmed that all these girls must have been Roman Catholic.  I had just received a certificate to show (to my surprise) that Peter Drummond and Margaret Campbell (parents of Emma Drummond and one of the Catherines) were married in a Roman Catholic chapel; it was the first evidence I had that any of this branch of the family might have been catholic - now confirmed by your information.  I am inclined to think that it must have been the Campbells (the sisters that my Drummond brothers married) who were Catholic, since we have birth and marriage parish records from Anglican churches in London for earlier Drummonds (although I could be wrong of course!)

I have gone through all the Drummonds on the list of immigrants to Queensland Registers of Immigrant Ships Arrivals 1848-1912 now, and there are no more matches with folk in my tree who have vanished off the British census records (but I bet there are some there that just haven't registered on my radar yet!)

Thanks very much again Ruski.

Best wishes,

Lesley

[eltelf]

Hi Bramcor,

I wonder if your local family history writer is connected with my Drummonds?  Kate Drummond married Robert Henry Wallace in 1892, in the Mackay area. 

They had five children: Lilian Esther (born 1893), George William (born 1894, married Florence known as Queenie), Ada Elizabeth (born 1896 married Victor Johnson), Richard Henry (born 1898) and Katie Mary (born 1900, married Edward Greenaway). 

The information I have on them is from a 'family history' written I think by Emily Drummond's descendents, but I also have a couple of letters and photographs that Katie Mary sent to her cousin Margaret Telford in Gateshead.

Would be interested to hear if your Wallace was related!

Best wishes,

Lesley

[eltelf]

Dear Ruskie,

PS - sorry, I forgot to add, re your suggestion about Ellen Drummond, travelled "Jumna" London July 1890

No, sadly, she is not mine - I have no Ellen’s at all among my Drummonds.   

Best wishes,

Lesley

[marmalade1]

Hi Lesley,

I recently found your help enquiry on the Drummond sisters. 
My husbands grandmother was Emily Baker Drummond.  The family history pages that you have were probably written by my husband and I and were probably passed onto you by a lady named Marian. 

If I can help you with any information please feel free to contact me.

Kind regards,
Barbara

[warncoort]

Eltelf,
I also started with information in a family booklet,some of which turned out to be wrong,incomplete (Emily married Mr White!) or omitted completely.
It may be worth your while to contact descendants of the authors to find out where and what information is held,may save you some money duplicating certificate purchases.
Eric.
wont even think of asking about Woods at this time!!

[eltelf]

Hi Barbara,

Very good to hear from you - yes, the Drummond Family History pages were passed to me by Marian, my husband's cousin (he is Peter Telford, Martha Drummond's grandson).

I was delighted when I saw your pages - not only because of the information, but also because of the wonderful family photographs (Peter's father was the youngest child in his family, and seems to have inherited no photos or documents, sadly). We were particularly pleased to see the 'family group' of Martha Drummond and her husband Jack Patterson Telford and their family. and I wondered if you had any more photographs of the family in Gateshead.

I have now written up the 'Drummond' history from this side of the world (Peckham in South London from 1870s, then Gateshead) as far as I can track it, using your information shamelessly to give details of the Drummonds who emigrated to Queensland; I would be very happy to send you a copy if you can let me have your address or email - you can let me know if any of my information conflicts with yours. My email address is

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Best wishes (and Happy New Year),

Lesley (Telford)

Hi Lesley,

I recently found your help enquiry on the Drummond sisters. 
My husbands grandmother was Emily Baker Drummond.  The family history pages that you have were probably written by my husband and I and were probably passed onto you by a lady named Marian. 

If I can help you with any information please feel free to contact me.

Kind regards,
Barbara

[Deborah G]

Hi Lesley,
I am related to the Mathers/Telfords who went to Lyttelton New Zealand from Gateshead - any connection?
Deb (Australia)

[eltelf]

Hi Deb,

I'm sorry, I don't think there are any Mathers in our Telford tree, and don't think we have any Telfords who went to NZ - they seem to have stuck to Queensland Aus (and Yonkers, New York).

Best wishes,

Lesley