Young and Knowls

[JaneyJ]

Hi All,
I was wondering if anyone could help, I am trying to find the 1851 census for the Young family listed below.
I have found them in the 1841 census and I am trying to confirm that they are my family.
I have James, John and William Young on later census reports and have confirmed that they are my lot, I just need to make sure that the 41 census is correct and the only way I can think of doing this is with the 51 census.

I also need the deaths of John Young senior and his wife Martha Knowls (Knowels, Knowells etc). I have no idea when they might have died, as again I can't find them in any later census reports to give me some clues.

1841 Census Kingston Upon Hull. Parish of Sutton.

John Young  age; 35 England. Occ' Tinner
Wife Martha age: 30 England (on census name transcribed as Matthew??)
Son: James  age: 15 England
Dau: Mary  age 14 England
Son: John age 10 England
Dau: Ann age 8 Humberside
Son: William age 6 Humberside
Dau: Martha age 3 England.

Any pointers would be great.

Jane

[mang]

hi the knowles name is also a fairground name in scotland if that is any help also the young name is in the romany routes magazine they also have a website billy young frankie young settled in glasgow they come from england  frankie married minnie todd her mam was a boswell scottish boswells and billy married a lady called izah might be of help might not

[JaneyJ]

Hi Mang,

Many thanks for your reply, most of my Young's  settled in Edinburgh, Coatbridge, and Glasgow, also some of them were camped with fairgrounds on a couple of my census reports.

Do you have any more info on the names you have given me to see if they do match.

I have information on James, John and William and most of their descendent's from 1861 onwards.  All my info is confirmed with birth, marriage, death and census records, but I just can't connect the 41 census with them without further proof and it's driving me crazy 

If I could get any info on the girls or the 51 or 61 census for John and Martha, it would confirm whether or not they are my lot.

Oh the joys of this hobby (obsession)

Jane