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Mystery of Kitty Carter
« on: Wednesday 14 October 09 22:34 BST (UK) »
Need help finding clues to a family mystery. I am looking for an Emily Palmer Abt1890. Daughter of henry and Mary Palmer, Sister to Florence, John and Rose. The 1901 census says that she was born Wellingborough Northamptonshire. However non of the children are in the latest census with their parents.  Emily Is said to have had a daughter know to us as Kitty Carter (could be catherine, Kathering, Kate). We don't know why Kitty she was a Carter not a Palmer. She supposidly married a man called Whitting and had a son Roy and John Whitting. However the family know the children  as Whitting but she was always know as Kitty Carter. She would have been born somewhere between 1905 and 1915. She later died some time after the 2nd world war in a car accident.  I cannot seems to find Emily, or kitty on any census. so any help would be great. Also where is best to look for paper cuttings to see if i can find any clues there?
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Re: Mystery of Kitty Carter
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 14 October 09 23:24 BST (UK) »
Hi lisasteve,

Are you certain Emily was the daughter of Henry and Emma Palmer?????

In 1891 it seems Emily is 11 mths old and her mother is mary(age 31) -father is henry W Palmer

there is a marriage FreeBMD
Sept qtr 1882
Leicester
on same page
henry william Palmer
Mary buswell
7a 350

and there is a death reg  freeBMD
Mary Palmer
age 39
mar qtr 1899
Wrllingbro
3b 100

I know this isn't helping with Kitty carter - but just wondered if you have this information???


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Re: Mystery of Kitty Carter
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 15 October 09 07:20 BST (UK) »
Sorry fo r the confusion but she was Mary (Emma?) Buswell, For some reason i have her one name on my lapt top and another on my PC. She definatly is a Buswell. Many thanks Lisa
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Re: Mystery of Kitty Carter
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 15 October 09 11:32 BST (UK) »
She didn'tmarry as mary Emma Buswell- there is no birth reg as mary E Buswell at correct time

Then there is the death reg of mary palmer

It may be worth investigating if Mary and Emma are 2 different people

Have you found the birth reg of any of the children????

Also you state you cannot seem to find Emily on any census - yet she is on 1891/1901???

You also state Kitty married a man called Whitting and had sons Roy and John - have you found their birth reg's ??? That will give their mother's maiden name . so you would know whether she was a Palmer or carter

Suz
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Re: Mystery of Kitty Carter
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 15 October 09 11:38 BST (UK) »
This is very confusing because there is a rival thread with slightly different information:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=412769.new;topicseen#new

"She supposidly married a man called Carter and had a son Roy and John"

So it seems she didn't marry a Carter, she married a Whitting - but it's not helpful in any event to have two threads running on the same (or nearly the same) information.

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Re: Mystery of Kitty Carter
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 15 October 09 14:51 BST (UK) »
No sorry regarding the thread, i didn't realise and don't know how to get rid of it! any ideas how to do that? Mary is definalty married to Henry as I have her birth and Marriage certificate. On the 1911 census there is only Mary, Henry and his mother. Sorry for the confusion I am suffereing with Chronic Asthma and am on Steriods that are making me make many mistakes at the moment. It wasn't the 1891 or 1901 census i needed as i have them, it was finding marriage for Emily and Birth/Death for Kitty.  Hope this makes sense?
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Re: Mystery of Kitty Carter
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 15 October 09 16:58 BST (UK) »
I have posted on other thread, oops :) :-[

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Re: Mystery of Kitty Carter
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 15 October 09 17:04 BST (UK) »
Re 1911 census request.  Please see
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,355484.0.html

You should not ask for look-ups from sources which are copyright, either commercial or free e.g. IGI, Ancestry, FindMyPast.

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Re: Mystery of Kitty Carter
« Reply #8 on: Friday 16 October 09 07:33 BST (UK) »
Thank you for the pointing that out. I am not often on here and havn't done research for 2 years. I have just started back up after visiting a family member, so I hadn't seen that post. Thanks again for letting me know, I will edit my request for 1911.
Headland - Bedfordshire villages
Rockingham -Leicestershire
Howell and Langley - Little Harrowden
Ward - Leeds
Chalkley - Hitchin