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Old contemptible
« on: Tuesday 13 October 09 13:22 BST (UK) »
Hi all
My grandfather (b 1889) was an old contemptible - he joined the Die hards (1st Middlesex Battalion (regiment?)) and was posted overseas to India.  He was in Woolwich being demobbed when war broke out and was re-enlisted in to the Die Hards and was one of the first regiments to land on French soil, seeing service in Mons (the first battle involving the British army).
Unfortunately his war medals were stolen when my parents house was burgled  >:( so I have no idea of his army number etc
I've tried searching the rolls on Ancestry and 1911 census but can't find him.
Any ideas on who I could approach etc would be most appreciated.
Jules

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Re: Old contemptible
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 13 October 09 13:28 BST (UK) »
If you could tell us his name first it would help.
Name interests: Boulton, Murrell, Lock, Croxton, Skinner, Blewett, Tonkin, Trathen.
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Re: Old contemptible
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 13 October 09 13:31 BST (UK) »
Hi
Charles Herbert Clarke, born in Westminster / Vauxhall.
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Re: Old contemptible
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 13 October 09 14:55 BST (UK) »
Well, being an Old Contemptible, there should most certainly be a medal card for him, and we're looking for someone who was awarded the 1914 Star.

So how many possible matches are there (all Middlesex Regt, and eliminating any with the wrong middle initial)?

2725 Pte Charles Clarke
PW/3758 Pte Charles Clarke
6386 Pte Charles Clarke
3632 Pte Charles Clarke
525 Pte Charles Clarke
G/5753 Pte Charles H Clarke

And that would seem to be it for the shortlist. It might be tempting to go with the last one with the middle initial H, but things are never that simple.  ;)
Let me see if I can eliminate any of the six.
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Re: Old contemptible
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 13 October 09 14:59 BST (UK) »
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G/5753 Pte Charles H Clarke

Well this one was Charles Herbert Clarke, but he was killed at Loos in Nov 1915.
So the next question, did your grandfather survive the war or not?
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Re: Old contemptible
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 13 October 09 15:54 BST (UK) »
Hi
Yes - he died in 1968.
Cheers  Jules

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Re: Old contemptible
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 13 October 09 17:40 BST (UK) »
Hi Neil , :)
If he re-enlisted maybe kept his orriginal number, would point to the 3 figure 525 Clark as a possible.
                                                                              :-\  Just a, Thought Rog
WAGHORN/E
KENWARD
HARRIS
DIXON
MARSHALL
MERCER
CARE
FAGG
RUSSELL
WOODRUFF      

 All these  Families were Born and Bred in Kent

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Re: Old contemptible
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 13 October 09 18:46 BST (UK) »
Hi
I came across this web-site.  http://armyservicenumbers.blogspot.com/search/label/Middlesex%20Regiment
The numbers range if he did keep the original number would all mean he was enlisted pre 1901 but on the 1901 census he was at home and not enlisted.

Is there a Middlesex Regiment association who might have access to records?

In hope,  Jules

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Re: Old contemptible
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 13 October 09 19:09 BST (UK) »
   Point taken ,he would only have been about 12 in 1901 so wouldnt think he would have joined up much before 1903/4.
    As you know when he died are there any press write ups in the local papers might give you info about him as he Was an Old Contemptable .
     Also did he attend  regimental reunions there could be write ups on those over the years.
     Was he in the British Legion his details could have been on his membership details of the lodge.
     Also you could try the local paper archives for period when he demobbed at wars end.Some of our local papers have Tommy returns safe etc articles which give lots of details.
                                              Good Luck. Rog
 
WAGHORN/E
KENWARD
HARRIS
DIXON
MARSHALL
MERCER
CARE
FAGG
RUSSELL
WOODRUFF      

 All these  Families were Born and Bred in Kent