James R Yeowell's Scavenger Hunt...Everyone Welcome To Join In

[James R. Yeowell]

I believe I'm making some inroads... not sure.

I came across reference to a Lt. Col. Sydney Ernest Lodington Baddeley earlier and whilst trying to decipher his ancestry, I did find something interesting, albeit not a direct link.

His uncle on his mother's side, a Lt. Col. Halkett F. Jackson, had a son named Maj. Mansel Halkett Jackson, M.C., D.S.O.  Mansel married Lady Sheila Mary Scott, daughter of Rupert Charles Scott, 7th Earl of Clonmell and his wife, Rachel Estelle Berridge.

Now Rachel Estelle Berridge was the daughter of Samuel Berridge and Rachel Alice Caunter.

Caunter is a name found in my Lodington branch.

Also, the Maunsell family were ancestors of Eleanor Sarah Fortye Millis.

Could this be a link?

Also, there is a Jackson family married into the Lodingtons but they do not seem to be related to these Jacksons, that I can see.

Addendum: one of the daughters of the 3rd Earl of Clonmell, Lady Rachel Mary Scott, married Lt. Llewellyn Traherne Bassett Saunderson.

Not only did the Saundersons marry into a much earlier branch of the Lodingtons (in Lincolnshire) but the name Bassett is the middle name of Camilla Mary Basset Lodington.

Again, is this all just a coincidence?

Addendum 2: I have also noticed that the wife of Thomas Charles Scott, 5th Earl of Clonmell, was Agnes Arabella Day, daughter of Robert Godfrey Day and his wife Anne Thompson.

Two of the Lodingtons in my tree married women with the surname Day.

Day is a reasonably common surname though.

Addendum 3: It seems that Rachel Alice Caunter's sister Elizabeth Mary Jane Caunter, married  a Frederick Jackson.

Very curious!

There is also a later Caunter marriage to a Jackson as well.

[toni*]

remembered what i was going to say have you tried the national portrait gallery for the paintings ? long shot i know also i take it youve tried the imperial war museum for where thomas served

[James R. Yeowell]

I haven't yet, no.

I shall look into it though.

I do have a portrait of someone who is purported to be a Thomas Lodington but I believe he is a member of the Soares family.

[ammonite]

Hi

Looking for the birth of the Emily with Eleanor S F Graham in 1861.

There is on FreeBMD a record of an
Emily Esberger born Lambeth  Dec 1850 Vol 4 292

This could be the child as the letters fit with the letters worked out.
But then that brings another surname into the mix.

However I can't see any signs of any marriage from the Esbergers to any of the names Eleanor S F  (Millis?)Graham goes by, to prove a connection.

Ammonite

[toni*]

i was going to say i dont think Eleanor would have remarried because she wasnt divorced from Beverley and unable to marry someone else legally, i did think also she may be living with another man as his wife in later census and also her death listed under the mans surname so it may help to locate her children to find her - i think tis has already been discussed but  i couldnt find her.

[L]

Hi,

Not sure where this might fit it, but there is this marriage:

Thomas Esberger and Mary Millis 15.06.1833, St Andrew, Holborn

Lesley

[toni*]

have you searched British History Online for Lodington ? has 271 matches
including :
House of Lords Journal Volume 64 - 15 December 1831

... House being moved, "That a Day may be appointed for hearing the Cause wherein Roger
Holdsworth, and others, are Appellants, and Thomas Lodington Fairfax and ...
Journal of the House of Lords: volume 64 (0)

House of Lords Journal Volume 63 - 11 July 1831

... The joint and separate Answer of Thomas Lodington Fairfax and Benjamin Eamondson
to the Petition and Appeal of Roger Holdsworth, John Robson, Robert Stephen ...
Journal of the House of Lords: volume 63 (0)

[ammonite]

IGI lists the parents of Emily Esberger as Thomas Esberger and Annabell at the christening on 12 Jan 1851, which could fit in with the marrage of Thomas to Mary., who might have died later on

However FreeBMD don't show and nor can I find on IGI after a quick search the remarriage to an Annabell.

Ammonite

[James R. Yeowell]

Excellent work everyone.  I am still convinced that is Eleanor pretending to be Mrs. Graham.

That Millis/Esberger link I'm following up.  It could be the missing link.  I have traced a lot of the Millis' but I'm stuck with John Robert Millis.

I have this information:

John Robert Millis, born circa 1787 and buried 6 August 1849 at Pentonville Chapel, St. James, Clerkenwell, London.

He married 1stly to Lydia Brime on 9 February 1809 at St. Bride, Fleet Street.  They had a daughter Edith Sarah Millis (she married Francis Bult Dunstan on 1 March 1840 at St. Clement Danes, London -- they had 3 sons).

It seems there could be two John Millis', because John and Lydia have further children after 1822

He married 2ndly to Elizabeth Fortye Maunsell (born 28 March 1798, Fremington, Devon; died 27 June 1853, Coppice Row, Clerkenwell and buried 4 July 1854 at Pentonville Chapel -- she was the daughter of Thomas Ridgate Maunsell and Maria Fortaye Daly) on 30 November 1822 at St. Bride, Fleet Street, London.  They had 7 children, including Eleanor Sarah Fortye Milllis.

So the Mary Millis who married Henry Esberger could be a sister of the above John Robert Millis.  Can anyone mayhaps check this?

Emily Esberger married Frederick Belford at St. Paul, Hackney on 31 December 1871.  She's indicated as the daughter of Thomas Esberger, a Beer-Retailer.  Frederick Belford is son of Thomas Belford, a Nautical Instrument Maker.

I am not sure if that will help locate Eleanor in a later census or not though.  I still suspect that death Ruskie found for an Eleanor Millis could be her.

Addendum: It seems Thomas Esberger married again on 22 September 1870, at St. John at Hackney, London, to Hannah Furneaux (née Baylis).  He was a widower and son of Michael Stephenson Esberger (he also married in London), a warehouseman.  Thomas is a Beer-Retailer.

Hannah Furneaux was a widower and daughter of Cornelius Baylis, a Market Gardener.  Coincidently, she is of Loddiges Road, which I have come across before (but I need to look up where).

This, of course, is not Annabel either.  Is this mayhaps his third wife, therefore?