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Re: Searching for origins of: MCNALLY, Catharine Christiana
« Reply #369 on: Saturday 06 February 10 03:59 GMT (UK) »
Hi

I'm re-reading Clem Sargent's book re the 48th Regiment ...  The Rev John Youl is mentioned .... I'll modify this post with the details shortly,  from memory though, Rev Youl was an assistant chaplain to that regiment, so would have travelled PJ to VDL fairly regularly.

Modifying to add, see post 370.
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Re: Searching for origins of: MCNALLY, Catharine Christiana
« Reply #370 on: Saturday 06 February 10 04:14 GMT (UK) »
Hi David,

Re the Dublin 1792 baptism,  the index doesn't show any details for her parentage, and I don't have any euros to gain access to view the record...

Re Rev Youl .... He was in VDL in 1821, baptising children of the military .... eg

At St Johns, Launceston in Nov 1821 baptising Pte Richard Wayne's daughter,
And in June 1821 (but no church or place named) he baptised a John James SMITH, son of a Pte Thomas Smith...
(both events attributed by Clem Sargent as performed by Youl ... page 87 of the book I have cited several times on the threads)

Also, on page 61 of that same book .... Cimitiere had instructions from Macquarie to erect buildings urgently, even if that meant withdrawing convict labour from their assignments .... so the first building at George Town was for the Rev John Youl .... and the next was for the commandant (Cimitiere) ...  I think that would place Youl in VDL on frequent basis from early 1818 to post 1821, and thus perhaps his servant (Miss Catherine Brennan) would travel too ... (with perhaps a basin for a kitchen sink  ;D)

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Re: Searching for origins of: MCNALLY, Catharine Christiana
« Reply #371 on: Saturday 06 February 10 04:32 GMT (UK) »
Hi David,

The Catharine McNally with parents Henry/Alice seems to be a submitted entry showing baptism of 6 Jan 1790 in Ireland ....  this is not the same index as I posted earlier today, showing 1792 with Co Dublin...  ;) ...

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Re: Searching for origins of: MCNALLY, Catharine Christiana
« Reply #372 on: Saturday 06 February 10 05:22 GMT (UK) »
have been revisiting teh irsih transportation records as their archives ealiest MCNally in them is 1824

A couple of Catherine McNally's but all well after the time we are looking at. Several had their petitions for wives and families to join them all after the dates we are looking at.

No leads there it seems but it was wise to re check as there were more there than when I last looked at it.

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The following families and their Australian decendents:
Abbott, Barnard, Clarke, Inward, Lanfear, Rutter,Spencer:Middlesex
Greenaway:Cornwall
Edney, Godwin/Goodwin, Gullett:Hampshire;
Gullett:Devon
Emms:39th Regiment of Foot 1810-1832
Gordon:Scotland
Arnold, Morton:Ireland
Davies:Wales
Olcorn:Cumberland
Osborne:Staffordshire
Harrington:Kent
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Re: Searching for origins of: MCNALLY, Catharine Christiana
« Reply #373 on: Saturday 06 February 10 05:27 GMT (UK) »
Hi All,

 ;D Robyn ... those Irish Transportation Records ....  ;D

I've been reading books and looking through online newspapers .....

Re ROOK

There's a Mrs ROOK of New Town in  The Hobart Town Gazette and Southern Reporter Saturday 19 April 1817 ... she was ex Norfolk ISLAND ... aged 78 ....  I'm wondering if there's a connection to Catharine  ... err .... Mrs Rook would have been similar age to Thomas RANSOM and surely Mrs Rook would have known Mr Ransom on NI or at least in VDL .... the small population .... the similar ages ....  

"none ever closed their days with a more respectable character and her worth will be long remembered"

(spotted the cutting when looking for Rev Youl  ;Dhttp://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/652581 
 

Cheers,  JM
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Re: Searching for origins of: MCNALLY, Catharine Christiana
« Reply #374 on: Saturday 06 February 10 05:47 GMT (UK) »
 Youl moved to Launceston but a chest ailment and the prevailing moral laxity drove him to despair. A month after sharing in the consecration of the unfinished church, he died from asthma on 25 March 1827. His widow died at Perth, Tasmania, on 19 July 1877.

Remember John- he was the one who registered the death of Anne Cummings by drowning in 1822- his property is on the midland highway south of Evandale, on the south esk, before Symmons Plains. The sister of my wife's Great Great grandmother was alsodrowned in the south Esk when the chaise driven by Youl's overseer overturned and  fell into the flooding river in 1851- not a healthy spot for ladys in carts !

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Juler- NWNorfolk , Thomas/Alice ,pre 1800,
Clement-Durham, Eng,pre 1800
Holroyd, Staffordshire, pre 1750
Amelia Wyatt/Cole/Booth,  born Surrey ,abt 1821
John Wentworth who married Sarah Holmes, Carshalton,pre 1785
John Frith married Ann, Yorkshire/pre 1770, Settrington?
Alice Miles married Holkham Norfolk to Juler about 1745
Thomas Sanders , Buckland 1700s
Richard Adams , tailor , Lambeth ,about 1780-1830
Earliest reference to Break O'Day Plains, Eastern Tasmania, before 1820

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Re: Searching for origins of: MCNALLY, Catharine Christiana
« Reply #375 on: Saturday 06 February 10 05:49 GMT (UK) »
correction- ladies in carts
David
Juler- NWNorfolk , Thomas/Alice ,pre 1800,
Clement-Durham, Eng,pre 1800
Holroyd, Staffordshire, pre 1750
Amelia Wyatt/Cole/Booth,  born Surrey ,abt 1821
John Wentworth who married Sarah Holmes, Carshalton,pre 1785
John Frith married Ann, Yorkshire/pre 1770, Settrington?
Alice Miles married Holkham Norfolk to Juler about 1745
Thomas Sanders , Buckland 1700s
Richard Adams , tailor , Lambeth ,about 1780-1830
Earliest reference to Break O'Day Plains, Eastern Tasmania, before 1820

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Re: Searching for origins of: MCNALLY, Catharine Christiana
« Reply #376 on: Saturday 06 February 10 05:59 GMT (UK) »
Tas Colonial family links has one Catherine Rook b1768 (nothing else) so she is neither the Mrs Rook you found nor the Catherine Rook we are lookiing for. (only 8 entries for Rook 47 for Rooke and none match tje time frame)

Robyn
The following families and their Australian decendents:
Abbott, Barnard, Clarke, Inward, Lanfear, Rutter,Spencer:Middlesex
Greenaway:Cornwall
Edney, Godwin/Goodwin, Gullett:Hampshire;
Gullett:Devon
Emms:39th Regiment of Foot 1810-1832
Gordon:Scotland
Arnold, Morton:Ireland
Davies:Wales
Olcorn:Cumberland
Osborne:Staffordshire
Harrington:Kent
&
Gross: Tullau Wurtmemburg Germany

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Re: Searching for origins of: MCNALLY, Catharine Christiana
« Reply #377 on: Saturday 06 February 10 06:06 GMT (UK) »
 ;D

And err ... Rev'd Youl's first residence ... the one at George Town ... became a Female Factory when he went to Launceston ...  Also it seems his wife was a child of a convict, and he had an early association with the Ebenezer (NSW) church ....  So perhaps Miss Catherine Brennan may have had a connection to either Youl's wife  or to the London Missionary Society ...

I know Robyn has mentioned the following before on this thread,  but trying to find females who don't seem to have a convict record is very much a "hit and miss" affair.... I cannot find that Mrs Rook who must have been transferred to VDL from Norfolk Island ... its far too far to have swum ...  ;D ... perhaps she is on a general muster prior to her April 1817 death at 78, but most likely she would be noted on Musters under her nee name .... alas, I have not yet found her given name ....

I'm thinking that perhaps Mrs Rook was likely the mother of William Rook,  and perhaps she was grandmother of Catherine Rook ....  

Thanks Robyn for the Tas Colonial info, so there's several families with name of Rook back in those days, and the Tas Colonial info doesn't cover all of them .... Alas ...  ;)

Cheers,  JM.  
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