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Re: Searching for origins of: MCNALLY, Catharine Christiana
« Reply #360 on: Friday 05 February 10 12:49 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Robyn, nice to have friends who can remind you of what you have done when you have forgotten! Can you tell me where I parked the car?

Ok- Catherine Rook(e) and the sealers- William Rook- John Mcanally- James Macanally  alias Wilson ) presumably James Wilson)

I got excited when I found Catharine Rook as a crew member on "Perserverance" in 1811 with another crew member James Macanally alias Wilson.  However there was no further reference to her in Sydey Gazette, nor in NSW BMD. Then a reference indicated she was killed in the Boyd massacre, but identified her as Bourke/Rourke. But Boyd massacre was 1809. But I searched for her under the names Bourke/Rourke anyway, and came up with SG 15/5/1803 a marriage of Catharine Rourke , widow of the Rocks, to Henry Simpson, a catholic marriage. If Catharine Mcnally was born 1789, then she was a widow and remarrying at 14. Could be,but it seems i lost interest at this stage due to lack of further information. So she is still in the mix.

William Rook aappears in Sydney Gazette regularly as a sealer from 1805 -1824- I believe he died in 1825. Always Rook, never Rourke. I didn't prove a relationship with Catharine Rook- but have assumed daughter- and so discarded Rourke as her name, so Widow Rourke was not her.

James macanally only appears once as a sealer( the perserverance record), but James Wilson appears in Sydney Gazette 4 times in 1810-1811 re dead letters- then a james Wilson is granted Ticket of leave in Hobart Hobart Gazette 19/4/1817. James Mcnally appears in 1818 muster at Port Dalrymple and subsequently in Gazette and HRA , and supplying wheat to Commissariat in 1822.

There seems to be a continuing overlap and association between a John and a James McNally- remember in1818 muster at Port dalrymple John is shown per Boddingtons, but it was james on Boddingtons,. But there do seem to have been two seperate people in VDL at this time

Add in the registration of John by John Mcnally and Catharine in 1811, and the employment of John McNally and wife by Cummings in 1816, and the continuing crewing on Governor Macquarie by a John  McNally including 1818 at Hobart, and I think we have enough Mcnallys!

Further reserch  on Catharine Rook after 1811 seems justified

David

Juler- NWNorfolk , Thomas/Alice ,pre 1800,
Clement-Durham, Eng,pre 1800
Holroyd, Staffordshire, pre 1750
Amelia Wyatt/Cole/Booth,  born Surrey ,abt 1821
John Wentworth who married Sarah Holmes, Carshalton,pre 1785
John Frith married Ann, Yorkshire/pre 1770, Settrington?
Alice Miles married Holkham Norfolk to Juler about 1745
Thomas Sanders , Buckland 1700s
Richard Adams , tailor , Lambeth ,about 1780-1830
Earliest reference to Break O'Day Plains, Eastern Tasmania, before 1820

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Re: Searching for origins of: MCNALLY, Catharine Christiana
« Reply #361 on: Saturday 06 February 10 02:13 GMT (UK) »
Hi there,

Re the Rosetta and the mariner/sealer William Rook and Catharine Rook and ...

In November 1818 the Rosetta was sold to the NSW Govt and renamed "Prince Leopold"  (Sydney Gazette 28 Nov 1818)
In December 1818 the Prince Leopold took passengers from PJ to various ports in VDL including Rev Youl .  In Feb 1819 Rev Youl and among others a Miss Brennan returned to PJ (by a different vessel)

In October 1819 a servant to the Rev John Youl accompanied him on the Prince Leopold to VDL (again  ;D ) and the servant's name :  Miss Catherine Brennan ....

So who was Miss Catherine Brennan  ........  ;D  She's on the TAO Index of arrivals as Catherine Brennan, servant to Rev Youl, arrival date 18 Oct 1819 (ie after the Muster) with reference CON13/1 p248

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Re: Searching for origins of: MCNALLY, Catharine Christiana
« Reply #362 on: Saturday 06 February 10 02:42 GMT (UK) »
Hi there

On the convict transport Ann/Anne arriving PJ Feb 1801 from Ireland were 147 male prisoners and 24 female prisoners... including a Catherine Brennan and a Mary McNally   http://members.iinet.net.au/~perthdps/convicts/confem23.html 

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Re: Searching for origins of: MCNALLY, Catharine Christiana
« Reply #363 on: Saturday 06 February 10 03:01 GMT (UK) »
Hi there

Re Mary McNally ex the ship Ann of 1801 .... NSW Muster of 1816 shows her 7 years expired in 1806, and that she was a Widow, living in the colony ....

Modifying to add, 1817 muster has Mary McNally living in the Colony (NSW) and adds her trial was held in the Summer of 1799 .. at Dublin ... ;D  ....

Further Mod.... Err.... still have not found any clues re birth dates for either Mary McNally or Catherine Brennan .... Sorry ...

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Re: Searching for origins of: MCNALLY, Catharine Christiana
« Reply #364 on: Saturday 06 February 10 03:42 GMT (UK) »
Having difficulty in finding the record for Catherine Brennan as servant of John Youl,going to Hobart on Prince leopold in October 1819- the report I found states family but not servant- can find Miss Brennan leaving Hobart to Sydney per "Alert" earlier in year in February 1819, with fellow passengers Youl/Gore/McQuuen. McQueen is merchant of 14 Hunter St Sydney. Claims on Miss Brennan to be presentd to Mr Birch in Macquarie Street. This sounds lke a business trip, if there is a relationship between the four of them.

David

Juler- NWNorfolk , Thomas/Alice ,pre 1800,
Clement-Durham, Eng,pre 1800
Holroyd, Staffordshire, pre 1750
Amelia Wyatt/Cole/Booth,  born Surrey ,abt 1821
John Wentworth who married Sarah Holmes, Carshalton,pre 1785
John Frith married Ann, Yorkshire/pre 1770, Settrington?
Alice Miles married Holkham Norfolk to Juler about 1745
Thomas Sanders , Buckland 1700s
Richard Adams , tailor , Lambeth ,about 1780-1830
Earliest reference to Break O'Day Plains, Eastern Tasmania, before 1820

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Re: Searching for origins of: MCNALLY, Catharine Christiana
« Reply #365 on: Saturday 06 February 10 03:46 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

Could this be the baptism of Catharine Christiana McNally in IRELAND in 1792 ....  ::)

On the Irish Family History Foundation Online Genealogy Databases for Ireland  http://ifhf.brsgenealogy.com/search.php (This site contains the largest collection of Parish records for the island of Ireland that are searchable online. )

There's a baptism indexed for 1792 for a Catharine McNally in the Co of Dublin  ;D but to get to view the actual record, there's a fee of five euros ...  

Modifying to Add, Hi David, re BRENNAN,  she shows as SERVANT on the TAO index  ;D

Cheers,

JM
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Re: Searching for origins of: MCNALLY, Catharine Christiana
« Reply #366 on: Saturday 06 February 10 03:51 GMT (UK) »
Having difficulty in finding the record for Catherine Brennan as servant of John Youl,going to Hobart on Prince leopold in October 1819- the report I found states family but not servant- can find Miss Brennan leaving Hobart to Sydney per "Alert" earlier in year in February 1819, with fellow passengers Youl/Gore/McQuuen. McQueen is merchant of 14 Hunter St Sydney. Claims on Miss Brennan to be presentd to Mr Birch in Macquarie Street. This sounds lke a business trip, if there is a relationship between the four of them.

David

Juler- NWNorfolk , Thomas/Alice ,pre 1800,
Clement-Durham, Eng,pre 1800
Holroyd, Staffordshire, pre 1750
Amelia Wyatt/Cole/Booth,  born Surrey ,abt 1821
John Wentworth who married Sarah Holmes, Carshalton,pre 1785
John Frith married Ann, Yorkshire/pre 1770, Settrington?
Alice Miles married Holkham Norfolk to Juler about 1745
Thomas Sanders , Buckland 1700s
Richard Adams , tailor , Lambeth ,about 1780-1830
Earliest reference to Break O'Day Plains, Eastern Tasmania, before 1820

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Re: Searching for origins of: MCNALLY, Catharine Christiana
« Reply #367 on: Saturday 06 February 10 03:54 GMT (UK) »
Youl returned to England in 1813 for further study and was promised priest's orders by the bishop of London. He received episcopal ordination by the bishop of Chester in 1815. He was later commissioned by Earl Bathurst as the first chaplain to the settlement at Port Dalrymple in northern Van Diemen's Land at a salary of £183. He sailed for Sydney where Governor Lachlan Macquarie sent him temporarily to Liverpool until a house was ready in Van Diemen's Land for his family. Youl went to Port Dalrymple on 20 December 1818 to inspect his new parish. During this three weeks visit he married forty-one couples, some of whom had anticipated the blessing of the church, and baptized sixty-seven children. After long delay he and his family sailed from Sydney at his own cost in the government brig Prince Leopold. He arrived with thirty tons of freight [/font] at Launceston in November 1819 and moved into Government Cottage.

Don't suppose you'd notice a servant or two in the hold with the kitchen sink- thats a lot of stuff!

David
Juler- NWNorfolk , Thomas/Alice ,pre 1800,
Clement-Durham, Eng,pre 1800
Holroyd, Staffordshire, pre 1750
Amelia Wyatt/Cole/Booth,  born Surrey ,abt 1821
John Wentworth who married Sarah Holmes, Carshalton,pre 1785
John Frith married Ann, Yorkshire/pre 1770, Settrington?
Alice Miles married Holkham Norfolk to Juler about 1745
Thomas Sanders , Buckland 1700s
Richard Adams , tailor , Lambeth ,about 1780-1830
Earliest reference to Break O'Day Plains, Eastern Tasmania, before 1820

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Re: Searching for origins of: MCNALLY, Catharine Christiana
« Reply #368 on: Saturday 06 February 10 03:56 GMT (UK) »
Re CCM 1792 dublin-is that parents henry and alice?
David
Juler- NWNorfolk , Thomas/Alice ,pre 1800,
Clement-Durham, Eng,pre 1800
Holroyd, Staffordshire, pre 1750
Amelia Wyatt/Cole/Booth,  born Surrey ,abt 1821
John Wentworth who married Sarah Holmes, Carshalton,pre 1785
John Frith married Ann, Yorkshire/pre 1770, Settrington?
Alice Miles married Holkham Norfolk to Juler about 1745
Thomas Sanders , Buckland 1700s
Richard Adams , tailor , Lambeth ,about 1780-1830
Earliest reference to Break O'Day Plains, Eastern Tasmania, before 1820