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Re: Searching for origins of: MCNALLY, Catharine Christiana
« Reply #270 on: Saturday 21 November 09 10:17 GMT (UK) »
Hi to all  :)

I'm following this thread but I can't contribute anything so far.
I post this for information only.  Maybe relevant- maybe not
Re post 262 Robyn - does it sound as if Marmaduke married again to this Hetta Chapman - or is this another generation do you think??   - if Christina died 1880 - Hetta may have been second wife - waddya think? 
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Marmaduke Langdale  Esq. H.M. 41st regt. married  21/3/1838
Henrietta Chapman of St. Thome
At Madras   
http://search.fibis.org/frontis/bin/aps_detail.php?id=120992

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Re: Searching for origins of: MCNALLY, Catharine Christiana
« Reply #271 on: Saturday 21 November 09 10:40 GMT (UK) »
Wow - that's an interesting one - that may have been the father/grandfather of  the Langdales.  Would just about fit father of Marmaduke who married Christina Von Stieglitz!   Looks as if another Marmaduke may have married another Henrietta/Hetta about 70 years later.

Thanks Raylen!

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Gaunt, Ransom, McNally, Stanfield, Kimberley. (Tasmania)
Brown, Johnstone, Eskdale, Brand  (Dumfriesshire,  Scotland)
Booth, Bruerton, Deakin, Wilkes, Kimberley
(Warwicks, Staffords)
Gaunt (Yorks)
Percy, Dunning, Hyne, Grigg, Farley (Devon, UK)
Duncan (Fife, Devon), Hugh, Blee (Cornwall)
Green, Mansfield, (Herts)
Cavenaugh, Ransom (Middlesex)
 

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Re: Searching for origins of: MCNALLY, Catharine Christiana
« Reply #272 on: Saturday 21 November 09 21:37 GMT (UK) »
Raylen,

welcome and what a wonderful find.

 As Louisia who we think is Marmadukes sister was born c 1844 this would be an obvious marriage for the parents.
 And here are births and other Langland references. Some tragic stories i here.

pity they are unnamed except father is Marmaduke for some
 http://search.fibis.org/frontis/bin/simplesearchsummarycat.php?mode=q
but here is the baptism Marmaduke Robert:
http://search.fibis.org/frontis/bin/simplesearchsummarycat.php?s_id=154&sn=langdale&fn=&f=&to=&t=&c=&searchtype=exact&tn=1 Robert

Wiggy makes you want to cry in parts.

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The following families and their Australian decendents:
Abbott, Barnard, Clarke, Inward, Lanfear, Rutter,Spencer:Middlesex
Greenaway:Cornwall
Edney, Godwin/Goodwin, Gullett:Hampshire;
Gullett:Devon
Emms:39th Regiment of Foot 1810-1832
Gordon:Scotland
Arnold, Morton:Ireland
Davies:Wales
Olcorn:Cumberland
Osborne:Staffordshire
Harrington:Kent
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Gross: Tullau Wurtmemburg Germany

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Re: Searching for origins of: MCNALLY, Catharine Christiana
« Reply #273 on: Saturday 21 November 09 22:23 GMT (UK) »
Welcome Raylen, you've tied that up nicely- the newspaper announcement of the marriage of Louisa Langdale to Louis frederick Stieglitz in 1868 at Fingal (District) stated that she was the daughter of the late Marmaduke langdale of HM 41st regiment of Foot, and given the marriage in 1867 at Avoca of Marmaduke robert langdale (of London)to Christina Von Stieglitz dau of walter francis Stieglitz, brother of Frederick Lewis Stieglitz, I think it is safe to assume that they were brother and sister , children of Marmaduke Langdale and Henrietta Chapman. Do I hear dissent from the team.. silent hisses of "remember Bryan"! Are we all as one. good.. onward then

David
Juler- NWNorfolk , Thomas/Alice ,pre 1800,
Clement-Durham, Eng,pre 1800
Holroyd, Staffordshire, pre 1750
Amelia Wyatt/Cole/Booth,  born Surrey ,abt 1821
John Wentworth who married Sarah Holmes, Carshalton,pre 1785
John Frith married Ann, Yorkshire/pre 1770, Settrington?
Alice Miles married Holkham Norfolk to Juler about 1745
Thomas Sanders , Buckland 1700s
Richard Adams , tailor , Lambeth ,about 1780-1830
Earliest reference to Break O'Day Plains, Eastern Tasmania, before 1820


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Re: Searching for origins of: MCNALLY, Catharine Christiana
« Reply #274 on: Saturday 21 November 09 22:57 GMT (UK) »
Dav
yes agree on this part but still brings us no nearer to finding where/how/why Catharine Christina McNally arrived in Tassie c 1818/1819.

Have tried my online resources to folow up on Robert McNally of the1/46 South Dorsetshire here1814/1818 before moving on to India.

(note to self have a look at Raylene site again for McNally) :-\

amended to add several McNally's there but no Robert.

nice going everyone

Robyn
The following families and their Australian decendents:
Abbott, Barnard, Clarke, Inward, Lanfear, Rutter,Spencer:Middlesex
Greenaway:Cornwall
Edney, Godwin/Goodwin, Gullett:Hampshire;
Gullett:Devon
Emms:39th Regiment of Foot 1810-1832
Gordon:Scotland
Arnold, Morton:Ireland
Davies:Wales
Olcorn:Cumberland
Osborne:Staffordshire
Harrington:Kent
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Gross: Tullau Wurtmemburg Germany

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Re: How Catharine met Frederick?
« Reply #275 on: Sunday 22 November 09 10:27 GMT (UK) »




Hello all,
              Looks like everyone knows about NLA.gov.au and beta newspapers...so..do a search for Thomas Ransom for The Mercury 1 Apr 1904 and look for page 7. I had hoped that one of the many articles after the death of Thomas might have a bit more information, and this one has...attended a school in Hobart run by the man who was in charge of the orphanage....Millbrook, near Killymoon, first home of newly wed Thomas was land granted to his father...(I am sure this grant would be to Thomas who d. in 1829 but does that make him his father). So I think Catharine's inheritance included this land in the NE where the Von Sts lived, which might be how their paths have crossed. Buried near his wife and mother, no mention of a sister - but what does that mean anyway.
              Yes, I did see the Wivenhoe, but my families are in the NW...Wivenhoe and Emu Bay etc. Mind you I have collided with the Hepburns in this Von St/Ransom saga and they are connected to my Mitchells, originally from the NE, then to the NW for my purposes. So much for six degrees of separation.

Cheers  Wivenhoe. 

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Re: Searching for origins of: MCNALLY, Catharine Christiana
« Reply #276 on: Sunday 22 November 09 11:11 GMT (UK) »
Hello !
This thread goes very fast and its hard to follow right in time (i have wife, job and children !)
Dont know what all is still noticed
1. Chr.McN birth year is not only a family legend, see death with article in
The Courier, Hobart, 21.8.1857
http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/2460475?searchTerm=stieglitz

2. To the Langdales:
a.) M. Robert and Louisa are sure prooved sisters. They were named as children of M. and Henriette in a heritage document in ireland, which source i found and lost.
b) Fr.L. vS. and Louisa have a daughter: Hester, born 1868 (in doc. a)
c) This Hester married a Mr. Gordon Thom, died 13.3.1934, Melbourne, and a
mother of Dorothy Langdale
http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/10919177?searchTerm=stieglitz

bw Leo


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Re: Searching for origins of: MCNALLY, Catharine Christiana
« Reply #277 on: Sunday 22 November 09 11:17 GMT (UK) »
Found again,
here a notices to the marmadukes langdale:

http://www.exploringsurreyspast.org.uk/GetRecord/SHCOL_8218

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Re: Searching for origins of: MCNALLY, Catharine Christiana
« Reply #278 on: Sunday 22 November 09 12:01 GMT (UK) »
concret to the last reply:

Release by Marmaduke Robert Langdale of 31 Albert Street, Mornington Crescent, London, to John Robert Jourdan, Alfred Langdale, the Rev George Augustus Langdale and Francis Stephen Clayton, trustees of the will of his grandfather Marmaduke Robert Langdale, late of Garston, Bletchingley, and Gower Street, London, (died 26 Sep 1860, will proved 25 Oct 1860) relating to his one third share in the trust money held by the trustees. The trust money was also for the benefit of Henrietta Langdale, widow of the testator's son Marmaduke Robert Langdale, and Henrietta's other children Albert Augustus and Louisa, Marmaduke Robert, party to this release, being the third child. With attached copy of baptism entry for Albert Augustus Langdale, 22 Oct 1842, and burial entry for Henrietta Langdale, 5 Dec 1861

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