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Re: Searching for origins of: MCNALLY, Catharine Christiana
« Reply #234 on: Wednesday 21 October 09 00:22 BST (UK) »
Wiggy, Dave,

Is it worth posting a query in the Irish section with the information you have on the surname?

Coupled with the unusual combination of Catharine Christiana,and the time frame, there is the possiblity that some one may stumble across a record for her in Ireland.

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The following families and their Australian decendents:
Abbott, Barnard, Clarke, Inward, Lanfear, Rutter,Spencer:Middlesex
Greenaway:Cornwall
Edney, Godwin/Goodwin, Gullett:Hampshire;
Gullett:Devon
Emms:39th Regiment of Foot 1810-1832
Gordon:Scotland
Arnold, Morton:Ireland
Davies:Wales
Olcorn:Cumberland
Osborne:Staffordshire
Harrington:Kent
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Gross: Tullau Wurtmemburg Germany

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Re: Searching for origins of: MCNALLY, Catharine Christiana
« Reply #235 on: Wednesday 21 October 09 00:43 BST (UK) »
Hi ya, this is a link to wiggy's thread on the ireland general board from july;
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,395697.0.html

you have to keep the faith and hope catherine will reveal herself soon 8)

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Re: Searching for origins of: MCNALLY, Catharine Christiana
« Reply #236 on: Wednesday 21 October 09 02:20 BST (UK) »
Thanks for that Tony!

She's elusive that's for sure!

Wiggy
Gaunt, Ransom, McNally, Stanfield, Kimberley. (Tasmania)
Brown, Johnstone, Eskdale, Brand  (Dumfriesshire,  Scotland)
Booth, Bruerton, Deakin, Wilkes, Kimberley
(Warwicks, Staffords)
Gaunt (Yorks)
Percy, Dunning, Hyne, Grigg, Farley (Devon, UK)
Duncan (Fife, Devon), Hugh, Blee (Cornwall)
Green, Mansfield, (Herts)
Cavenaugh, Ransom (Middlesex)
 

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Re: Searching for origins of: MCNALLY, Catharine Christiana
« Reply #237 on: Wednesday 21 October 09 02:30 BST (UK) »

Yes, lets not forget Thomas! This is just an IGI construct, based on exhaustive trawling, cross referencing and eliminations, but it is still just that- a construct from one data base, with no substantiation.. however...

It would make Thomas 37 at marriage, 39 when his first child was born, 45 at trial, 48 when transported, 73 when evacuated from Norfolk, 79 when Thomas 1820 was born , and 88 at death

Thomas Ransom 1741-1729 ;

1 Thomas Ransom.  m. Mary Hill    -  29 Sept 1740 at St Benet Paul’s Wharf

2Thomas Ransom                               c. 20 Jun 1741 at St Martin in the Fields .
   
3Married  8 Jun 1778 at St Leonards, Shoreditch, to

 Elizabeth Durrell c.6 Nov  1757  (John and Elizabeth Durrell)  at St George in the
                                                                                                          East, Stepney,
 children   3.1 Ann Ransom     c. 13 Dec 1780 St Matthew’s, Bethnal Green,
                        ( m. Samuel Huet 9 Sep 1796 St Matthew’s, Bethnal Green,
                3.2 Magdalen Jane       c. 30 Jul 1784 St Matthew’s, Bethnal Green,

David

Juler- NWNorfolk , Thomas/Alice ,pre 1800,
Clement-Durham, Eng,pre 1800
Holroyd, Staffordshire, pre 1750
Amelia Wyatt/Cole/Booth,  born Surrey ,abt 1821
John Wentworth who married Sarah Holmes, Carshalton,pre 1785
John Frith married Ann, Yorkshire/pre 1770, Settrington?
Alice Miles married Holkham Norfolk to Juler about 1745
Thomas Sanders , Buckland 1700s
Richard Adams , tailor , Lambeth ,about 1780-1830
Earliest reference to Break O'Day Plains, Eastern Tasmania, before 1820


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Re: Searching for origins of: MCNALLY, Catharine Christiana
« Reply #238 on: Wednesday 21 October 09 02:34 BST (UK) »
Have we overlooked freemasonry as a source?
1817  -  -  22 February  -  the Hobart Town Gazette reports: "after a performance by the Chaplain, the Rev. Robt. Knopwood,a neat and appropriate Masonic oration was delivered by a member of the society" on the occasion of the consecration of the land intended for St David's Church, after which "they partook of a very handsome cold collation, all anticipating prosperity and happiness of Van Diemen's Land".
1819  -  June 12  -  the Hobart Town Gazette records a list of subscribers to the Auxiliary Branch Bible Society of Van Diemen's Land at the Derwent which names twelve members of  "the free and accepted Masons belonging to the Lodge of St. John, Hobart T."
1819  -  16 October -  the Hobart Town Gazette reports that Michael Lee (formerly of the lodge at Norfolk Island) had been granted a licence for the tavern, the Freemason's Arms, in Hobart. 
1820  -  1 January  -  the Hobart Town Gazette reports that 'On Monday last, the Freemasons resident in this Settlement assembled and went in procession to lay the foundation stone of a new lodge intended to be erected in Melville Street on the plot of ground which they have occupied in exchange for that originally held by the lodge at Norfolk Island.'

David
Juler- NWNorfolk , Thomas/Alice ,pre 1800,
Clement-Durham, Eng,pre 1800
Holroyd, Staffordshire, pre 1750
Amelia Wyatt/Cole/Booth,  born Surrey ,abt 1821
John Wentworth who married Sarah Holmes, Carshalton,pre 1785
John Frith married Ann, Yorkshire/pre 1770, Settrington?
Alice Miles married Holkham Norfolk to Juler about 1745
Thomas Sanders , Buckland 1700s
Richard Adams , tailor , Lambeth ,about 1780-1830
Earliest reference to Break O'Day Plains, Eastern Tasmania, before 1820

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Re: Searching for origins of: MCNALLY, Catharine Christiana
« Reply #239 on: Wednesday 21 October 09 02:46 BST (UK) »
and the last thought for the day (?)

Wiggy is convinced and so far the records bear her out , that our Catharine was not a convict-she was  consistent in her use of Mcnally as her real name- so let us accept that she WAS born 1789. So she either came to NSW/VDL or was born colony- so have we individually and collectively in the frenzy of the chase, explored to the limits of our capacity and the available records, female births in NSW 1789?
David

Juler- NWNorfolk , Thomas/Alice ,pre 1800,
Clement-Durham, Eng,pre 1800
Holroyd, Staffordshire, pre 1750
Amelia Wyatt/Cole/Booth,  born Surrey ,abt 1821
John Wentworth who married Sarah Holmes, Carshalton,pre 1785
John Frith married Ann, Yorkshire/pre 1770, Settrington?
Alice Miles married Holkham Norfolk to Juler about 1745
Thomas Sanders , Buckland 1700s
Richard Adams , tailor , Lambeth ,about 1780-1830
Earliest reference to Break O'Day Plains, Eastern Tasmania, before 1820

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Re: Searching for origins of: MCNALLY, Catharine Christiana
« Reply #240 on: Wednesday 21 October 09 02:50 BST (UK) »
oh dear, did we miss this, is our Wiggy right after all, is Leo right

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The Sydney Gazette and... Saturday 19 September 1818, page 3. Advertising 429 words
... T. S. Amos. WANTED, a FEMALE SERVANT ma especta- ble Family, who understands Cooking, and other HousholdWork. None need apply whose cha- racter will not bear the strictest Enquiry. For Refe- rence ... good Well of water, and every convcniency for a genteel Family.-Apply on the Premisses, or at Mr

David
Juler- NWNorfolk , Thomas/Alice ,pre 1800,
Clement-Durham, Eng,pre 1800
Holroyd, Staffordshire, pre 1750
Amelia Wyatt/Cole/Booth,  born Surrey ,abt 1821
John Wentworth who married Sarah Holmes, Carshalton,pre 1785
John Frith married Ann, Yorkshire/pre 1770, Settrington?
Alice Miles married Holkham Norfolk to Juler about 1745
Thomas Sanders , Buckland 1700s
Richard Adams , tailor , Lambeth ,about 1780-1830
Earliest reference to Break O'Day Plains, Eastern Tasmania, before 1820

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Re: Searching for origins of: MCNALLY, Catharine Christiana
« Reply #241 on: Wednesday 21 October 09 02:57 BST (UK) »
WDAve,

Masons were more open in the community back then than they are now.
I wonder how in depth their records are and certainly is a field we should not forget. Whre would we star NSW or Tasmania?

(my father was a mason for many years in Victoria but at that time they were quite secretive although I remeber attending family chrismas funtions in the masonic hall)

Robyn
The following families and their Australian decendents:
Abbott, Barnard, Clarke, Inward, Lanfear, Rutter,Spencer:Middlesex
Greenaway:Cornwall
Edney, Godwin/Goodwin, Gullett:Hampshire;
Gullett:Devon
Emms:39th Regiment of Foot 1810-1832
Gordon:Scotland
Arnold, Morton:Ireland
Davies:Wales
Olcorn:Cumberland
Osborne:Staffordshire
Harrington:Kent
&
Gross: Tullau Wurtmemburg Germany

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Re: Searching for origins of: MCNALLY, Catharine Christiana
« Reply #242 on: Wednesday 21 October 09 03:14 BST (UK) »
David,

You're having me on aren't you  ;D  - the T S Amos doesn't refer to the prospective female employee as you well know - but it could!!!

Wiggy
Gaunt, Ransom, McNally, Stanfield, Kimberley. (Tasmania)
Brown, Johnstone, Eskdale, Brand  (Dumfriesshire,  Scotland)
Booth, Bruerton, Deakin, Wilkes, Kimberley
(Warwicks, Staffords)
Gaunt (Yorks)
Percy, Dunning, Hyne, Grigg, Farley (Devon, UK)
Duncan (Fife, Devon), Hugh, Blee (Cornwall)
Green, Mansfield, (Herts)
Cavenaugh, Ransom (Middlesex)
 

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