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Re: Searching for origins of: MCNALLY, Catharine Christiana
« Reply #225 on: Tuesday 20 October 09 05:58 BST (UK) »
BIRTH .--On the 28th ultimo, at Mr. Fryett's farm near Herdsman's Cove, a woman named Catherine O'Neil was safely delivered of three fine boys. The mother is doing well ;   but the infants all died before proper medical attendance arrived. It is Singular that this good woman has been delivered of four Sons within the Short Space of eight months
Hobart Town Gazette 2 Jan 1819
David

Juler- NWNorfolk , Thomas/Alice ,pre 1800,
Clement-Durham, Eng,pre 1800
Holroyd, Staffordshire, pre 1750
Amelia Wyatt/Cole/Booth,  born Surrey ,abt 1821
John Wentworth who married Sarah Holmes, Carshalton,pre 1785
John Frith married Ann, Yorkshire/pre 1770, Settrington?
Alice Miles married Holkham Norfolk to Juler about 1745
Thomas Sanders , Buckland 1700s
Richard Adams , tailor , Lambeth ,about 1780-1830
Earliest reference to Break O'Day Plains, Eastern Tasmania, before 1820

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Re: Searching for origins of: MCNALLY, Catharine Christiana
« Reply #226 on: Tuesday 20 October 09 06:50 BST (UK) »
It was a pretty tight system within a very small town

Government Public Notice.
Secretary's Office, Hobart Town, 3rd January, 1818
ALL Female Prisoners not affigned to Service, and who are allowed to be at large on their own Hands, must have regular Tickets of Leave ; they are required to apply at the Secretary's Office on Wednefday next, .the 7th Inftanf, between the Hours of Ten and One O’Clock, and to bring with them in writing the Names of the Ships in which they left England, the Years in which they arrived from Europe, and.the Names of the Veffels by which they arrived at this Colony alfo, the Periods and Places of Trial, and the periods of Sentence.
Such Women as negleclt or disobey this Notice will be ordered into Government Employment.
Several Females haying appeared at the General Muster having stated themselves themelves to have become Free by Servitude, but were unable , to exhibit any Certificate of Freedom, all females, who have become  Free by Expiration of Sentence, not poffering a Certificate ,of Freedom,, are to apply, at this Office, on the following Day ,(Thürsday 8th),betweèn the Hours ot Ten and One; and bring with them in writing particulars Of their Trials, Sentences and vessels in which they arrived from Europe and at this Colony, , . . , ,
By Command of His Honor the Lieutenant Governor,
W. A Ross, Secretary



Juler- NWNorfolk , Thomas/Alice ,pre 1800,
Clement-Durham, Eng,pre 1800
Holroyd, Staffordshire, pre 1750
Amelia Wyatt/Cole/Booth,  born Surrey ,abt 1821
John Wentworth who married Sarah Holmes, Carshalton,pre 1785
John Frith married Ann, Yorkshire/pre 1770, Settrington?
Alice Miles married Holkham Norfolk to Juler about 1745
Thomas Sanders , Buckland 1700s
Richard Adams , tailor , Lambeth ,about 1780-1830
Earliest reference to Break O'Day Plains, Eastern Tasmania, before 1820

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Re: Searching for origins of: MCNALLY, Catharine Christiana
« Reply #227 on: Tuesday 20 October 09 07:08 BST (UK) »
Dave,

just makes it harder to understand how Catharine went unrecorded ::)

Robyn
The following families and their Australian decendents:
Abbott, Barnard, Clarke, Inward, Lanfear, Rutter,Spencer:Middlesex
Greenaway:Cornwall
Edney, Godwin/Goodwin, Gullett:Hampshire;
Gullett:Devon
Emms:39th Regiment of Foot 1810-1832
Gordon:Scotland
Arnold, Morton:Ireland
Davies:Wales
Olcorn:Cumberland
Osborne:Staffordshire
Harrington:Kent
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Gross: Tullau Wurtmemburg Germany

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Re: Searching for origins of: MCNALLY, Catharine Christiana
« Reply #228 on: Tuesday 20 October 09 07:08 BST (UK) »
Would Catherine have seen this sort of notice after arrival?

18 July 1818 WANTED immediately, for a small Family in Town, a middle aged Female Servant of All-Work,-Apply at the Gazette

David
Juler- NWNorfolk , Thomas/Alice ,pre 1800,
Clement-Durham, Eng,pre 1800
Holroyd, Staffordshire, pre 1750
Amelia Wyatt/Cole/Booth,  born Surrey ,abt 1821
John Wentworth who married Sarah Holmes, Carshalton,pre 1785
John Frith married Ann, Yorkshire/pre 1770, Settrington?
Alice Miles married Holkham Norfolk to Juler about 1745
Thomas Sanders , Buckland 1700s
Richard Adams , tailor , Lambeth ,about 1780-1830
Earliest reference to Break O'Day Plains, Eastern Tasmania, before 1820


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Re: Searching for origins of: MCNALLY, Catharine Christiana
« Reply #229 on: Tuesday 20 October 09 07:16 BST (UK) »
David - Yes I saw that ad too - but which small family? - I saw another like it - but without reference to a family!

Robyn - I think - still   ;) - that she didn't get recorded because she wasn't a convict!!  I will hold to that conviction (!) until someone proves otherwise!

Wiggy
Gaunt, Ransom, McNally, Stanfield, Kimberley. (Tasmania)
Brown, Johnstone, Eskdale, Brand  (Dumfriesshire,  Scotland)
Booth, Bruerton, Deakin, Wilkes, Kimberley
(Warwicks, Staffords)
Gaunt (Yorks)
Percy, Dunning, Hyne, Grigg, Farley (Devon, UK)
Duncan (Fife, Devon), Hugh, Blee (Cornwall)
Green, Mansfield, (Herts)
Cavenaugh, Ransom (Middlesex)
 

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Re: Searching for origins of: MCNALLY, Catharine Christiana
« Reply #230 on: Tuesday 20 October 09 07:45 BST (UK) »
Wiggy,

I agree but with all the checking and musters the necessity for church records of life events it is hard to understand that she id not noted as we know her until Thomas' baptism.

Hope you manage to track down Ann Ransom's baptism. :)

Dave, such scrutinybis perhaps the onlt way that she will be found. I am in awe of your research. :-*


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Robyn
The following families and their Australian decendents:
Abbott, Barnard, Clarke, Inward, Lanfear, Rutter,Spencer:Middlesex
Greenaway:Cornwall
Edney, Godwin/Goodwin, Gullett:Hampshire;
Gullett:Devon
Emms:39th Regiment of Foot 1810-1832
Gordon:Scotland
Arnold, Morton:Ireland
Davies:Wales
Olcorn:Cumberland
Osborne:Staffordshire
Harrington:Kent
&
Gross: Tullau Wurtmemburg Germany

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Re: Searching for origins of: MCNALLY, Catharine Christiana
« Reply #231 on: Tuesday 20 October 09 07:56 BST (UK) »
Bye the Bye,

I have been looking at Thomas Ransom's earlier relationshhip via the IGI and restricted to London and Middlesex areas.

In 1778 a Thomas Ransom married Elisabeth Durell in Shoreditch.

Two possible daughters  Ann 1780  and Magdalen Jane, 1784, both baptised in Bethnal Green.

Also found a possible marriage fro Ann to Sam Huetin Bethnal Green ib 1804, two daughters Ann 1805 and Elizabeth 1807.  Both are too young to be contenders fro Catharine.

Magdalen Jane I can't trace yet.

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Robyn
The following families and their Australian decendents:
Abbott, Barnard, Clarke, Inward, Lanfear, Rutter,Spencer:Middlesex
Greenaway:Cornwall
Edney, Godwin/Goodwin, Gullett:Hampshire;
Gullett:Devon
Emms:39th Regiment of Foot 1810-1832
Gordon:Scotland
Arnold, Morton:Ireland
Davies:Wales
Olcorn:Cumberland
Osborne:Staffordshire
Harrington:Kent
&
Gross: Tullau Wurtmemburg Germany

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Re: Searching for origins of: MCNALLY, Catharine Christiana
« Reply #232 on: Tuesday 20 October 09 08:07 BST (UK) »
We are inclined to think Elizabeth Durrell is the one!   Been trying to chase those two daughters.

Wiggy
Gaunt, Ransom, McNally, Stanfield, Kimberley. (Tasmania)
Brown, Johnstone, Eskdale, Brand  (Dumfriesshire,  Scotland)
Booth, Bruerton, Deakin, Wilkes, Kimberley
(Warwicks, Staffords)
Gaunt (Yorks)
Percy, Dunning, Hyne, Grigg, Farley (Devon, UK)
Duncan (Fife, Devon), Hugh, Blee (Cornwall)
Green, Mansfield, (Herts)
Cavenaugh, Ransom (Middlesex)
 

 Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.

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Re: Searching for origins of: MCNALLY, Catharine Christiana
« Reply #233 on: Tuesday 20 October 09 18:01 BST (UK) »
 Macnally, MacAnally and Nally all share the same original Irish origins, in the two Irish names Mac an fhailghigh, "son of the poor man", and Mac Con Uladh, "son of the hound of Ulster", the latter name is almost entirely confined to Ulster including most of what are now counties Armagh and Monaghan. Today, the anglicized versions of the name remain very common in these counties, with the "Mac-"forms in the majority, Outside Ulster, the principal origin of the name is in north-west Connacht, in counties Roscommon and Mayo,( Bridget and Winifred!)  The most common form in these counties is the simple "Nally"( as suggested by JM) In 1890, McNally was concentrated in counties Antrim, Armagh and Monaghan, (MacNally was among the 20 most common names in Monaghan (1970) while Nally was almost exclusive to Roscommon and Mayo...David

Juler- NWNorfolk , Thomas/Alice ,pre 1800,
Clement-Durham, Eng,pre 1800
Holroyd, Staffordshire, pre 1750
Amelia Wyatt/Cole/Booth,  born Surrey ,abt 1821
John Wentworth who married Sarah Holmes, Carshalton,pre 1785
John Frith married Ann, Yorkshire/pre 1770, Settrington?
Alice Miles married Holkham Norfolk to Juler about 1745
Thomas Sanders , Buckland 1700s
Richard Adams , tailor , Lambeth ,about 1780-1830
Earliest reference to Break O'Day Plains, Eastern Tasmania, before 1820