Searching for origins of: MCNALLY, Catharine Christiana

[davclem]

 JM,  definitely one which caused a twitch because two of her shipmates on Canada were Bridget and Winifred McNally from Mayo, and identity swap immediately came to mind, but Bridge and Winny are accounted for.

She was aka Hickey, convicted City of Dublin August 1816, one month after Mary Neale (sen) and Mary neale (jun), and all three transported per Canada 1817- I didn't follow the Marys, but Catherine was embarked on Elizabeth Henrietta 11th August 1817 to Hobart (Col Sec Index) The Convict Permission to Marry at the Archives shows her as marrying Edward Jones- but  that was 1842 and she was per Westmoreland, so not her. She received 7 years, so would normally be f/s in 1823, and no convict permission to marry is shown  marry between 1817-1824.

I can't find my notes on her, but I know I've considered her, but can't remember why I discarded her., so thanks for bring her to notice again- need to ferret and poke!

David

[majm]

Hi David,
1820 VDL Muster, at New Norfolk - have you considered this lass 

Cathe Wood ex the Marian (or Marion) tried at Lancester in 1817, got 7 years .... at New Norfolk in 1820, not assigned to anyone 

And so far, NO further sightings of Catherine GAREN .....

JM

[majm]

Bit More,

I am hoping this will bring some joy you all....  its Just Moi Opinion that it shows the importance of getting to the proper records, as I doubt that the information this person has been given has much factual basis....

I have just read online on a submitted tree    ..... where someone's forebears were transported FROM (I leave the spelling here too) Fort Dyrumple, Van Dymends Land in the South Seas TO The Derwent in Tasmania Australia.... in 1816 and the journey took .... only six to twelve months  on a military ship under the command of  "General Musters"  

Umm, I have sent them a gentle email indicating that it was my opinion that Van Dymends Land was probably the same Island as Tasmania, ....  and suggesting that they join RChat ...  (I did not suggest that "General Musters" was not commanding any ship in the South Seas, but I did suggest they could check online for Van Diemens Land)

JM

[davclem]

JM, Think we can discount Catharine Wood at New Norfolk in 1820, as we have a wife to Thomas Ransom in 1819 and Catherine giving birth to Thomas as McNally in 1820. Will check out Catherine Garen after getting rid of the snake

David

[majm]

Hi David,

But should we discount Catharine Wood at New Norfolk in 1820 I thought Thomas Ransom had land in that vicinity by then .... we don't have "Wiggy's Catharine" (Ransom/McNally) on any 1820 General  Muster as yet 

Snakes .... yes well .... I'm sure Catherine Garen MISSING in VDL since 1817 won't mind waiting ... afterall she was Irish so no snakes for her please ....

I'm currently trawling through 2,006 index references online for sightings in VDL  for Cath .... I've gone through 1,350 of them and only just now getting to Catherine with surnames starting with "M"  ....    and I'm only posting the "possible" lasses....

JM

[Wiggy]

Love the info in Post 128 JM!   No wonder we have trouble.

Just been out to lunch - it is dangerous to eat out - every time I do you all go bananas on the thread!

how are you going Patrick!

Wiggy    With nothing helpful to add!     Interesting that the lists are done under - Surname, Christian/forename Mc .

[majm]

Trawled all 2006 index references, only posted ones on RChat that seem to have some VDL link within the time frame, and

NO sighting of that MISSING Catherine Garen....

Sorry.... but eye-sore at present...

JM

[regross]

I'm with Jm on this

No Catherine MCNally around in 1820 and Ransom was in the vicinity where Catharine Wood was recorded.

When is the first reference eto them being a couple???

Robyn

[davclem]

I think Catherine Garen may have been Catherine Goran /Geran who was born in 1787, and arrived VDL in 1814 per Kangaroo, on the notorious round trip under Lieutenant Jeffreys, the same voyage that brought Thomas Ransom to Hobart, which would be a nice coincidence, but she married William Newman on the 12th June 1815, and in the 1819 Muister William Newman is supporting himself, a wife, 2 children and a Government servant off stores, as well as 30 sheep.
David