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Re: Searching for origins of: MCNALLY, Catharine Christiana
« Reply #99 on: Thursday 15 October 09 12:14 BST (UK) »
JM.
The Royal Oak is still there, a private house now, but unchanged. Note that Green Ponds then is Kempton now. Thomas is probably buried under the Midland Highway.
David
Juler- NWNorfolk , Thomas/Alice ,pre 1800,
Clement-Durham, Eng,pre 1800
Holroyd, Staffordshire, pre 1750
Amelia Wyatt/Cole/Booth,  born Surrey ,abt 1821
John Wentworth who married Sarah Holmes, Carshalton,pre 1785
John Frith married Ann, Yorkshire/pre 1770, Settrington?
Alice Miles married Holkham Norfolk to Juler about 1745
Thomas Sanders , Buckland 1700s
Richard Adams , tailor , Lambeth ,about 1780-1830
Earliest reference to Break O'Day Plains, Eastern Tasmania, before 1820

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Re: Searching for origins of: MCNALLY, Catharine Christiana
« Reply #100 on: Thursday 15 October 09 12:17 BST (UK) »
If Ann was truly "adopted" then she wasn't a child of Catharines, so the issue of two births in say 15 months is not an issue
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Juler- NWNorfolk , Thomas/Alice ,pre 1800,
Clement-Durham, Eng,pre 1800
Holroyd, Staffordshire, pre 1750
Amelia Wyatt/Cole/Booth,  born Surrey ,abt 1821
John Wentworth who married Sarah Holmes, Carshalton,pre 1785
John Frith married Ann, Yorkshire/pre 1770, Settrington?
Alice Miles married Holkham Norfolk to Juler about 1745
Thomas Sanders , Buckland 1700s
Richard Adams , tailor , Lambeth ,about 1780-1830
Earliest reference to Break O'Day Plains, Eastern Tasmania, before 1820

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Re: Searching for origins of: MCNALLY, Catharine Christiana
« Reply #101 on: Thursday 15 October 09 12:18 BST (UK) »
Hi Wiggy and all,

Your 1790 lass, she's in the equation BUT we just cannot find her arrival in either colony.... 

Umm, I think that's  most likely Ann Cummings drowning at PD in Sept 1820 ....  so I presume she had been found after absconding from John !

Umm, I cannot find any trace of Henry or Alice McNally or their daughter Catharine in IRELAND after that 1790 birth.... 

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Re: Searching for origins of: MCNALLY, Catharine Christiana
« Reply #102 on: Thursday 15 October 09 12:24 BST (UK) »
I have record of Thomas's baptism - born 14th November - baptism 18th December 1820.

Maybe Henry and Alice came, with Catharine, on the first emigrant ship direct to VDL in 1816!!  much laughter in camp!  but they weren't listed.  JOKE

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Gaunt, Ransom, McNally, Stanfield, Kimberley. (Tasmania)
Brown, Johnstone, Eskdale, Brand  (Dumfriesshire,  Scotland)
Booth, Bruerton, Deakin, Wilkes, Kimberley
(Warwicks, Staffords)
Gaunt (Yorks)
Percy, Dunning, Hyne, Grigg, Farley (Devon, UK)
Duncan (Fife, Devon), Hugh, Blee (Cornwall)
Green, Mansfield, (Herts)
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Re: Searching for origins of: MCNALLY, Catharine Christiana
« Reply #103 on: Thursday 15 October 09 12:27 BST (UK) »
David,
Brings us right beck to your theory about Ann Cummings doesn't it.  I wish Cathy would resurface with her Cummings history.  And Leo - drop in for a chat will you please?

Think I will send her a PM and see what she can tell us!

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Gaunt, Ransom, McNally, Stanfield, Kimberley. (Tasmania)
Brown, Johnstone, Eskdale, Brand  (Dumfriesshire,  Scotland)
Booth, Bruerton, Deakin, Wilkes, Kimberley
(Warwicks, Staffords)
Gaunt (Yorks)
Percy, Dunning, Hyne, Grigg, Farley (Devon, UK)
Duncan (Fife, Devon), Hugh, Blee (Cornwall)
Green, Mansfield, (Herts)
Cavenaugh, Ransom (Middlesex)
 

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Re: Searching for origins of: MCNALLY, Catharine Christiana
« Reply #104 on: Thursday 15 October 09 12:38 BST (UK) »
I have record of Thomas's baptism - born 14th November - baptism 18th December 1820.
Maybe Henry and Alice came, with Catharine, on the first emigrant ship direct to VDL in 1816!!  much laughter in camp! but they weren't listed. 
Seriously, do we have any Henry or Alice in VDL records ..... I cannot find any, but I'm eye sore at present  ;)   I cannot find them to NSW either...

ALSO, if I'm not posting on here for next several days, you all have MOI permission to find Catharine.... I may need to attend to some 2009 activities for Moi family....

Cheers.  JM
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Re: Searching for origins of: MCNALLY, Catharine Christiana
« Reply #105 on: Thursday 15 October 09 12:40 BST (UK) »
Just been back to the old thread, - at post 311 Cathy says that her family records show that John Cummings had a wife and three children with him at PD in 1819 muster - that throws the cat among the pigeons - or there's been a mistake somewhere.

And there's the small matter of Phillip Cummings born 1818.   I was going to write her a PM but decided she had told us what she knew on the subject.

No JM seriously - I don't think Henry and Alice came to VDl - nice if they had though!

I've gotta go folks - Have an early start and a long baby sit tomorrow.  Don't leave me tooooo far behind will you?

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Gaunt, Ransom, McNally, Stanfield, Kimberley. (Tasmania)
Brown, Johnstone, Eskdale, Brand  (Dumfriesshire,  Scotland)
Booth, Bruerton, Deakin, Wilkes, Kimberley
(Warwicks, Staffords)
Gaunt (Yorks)
Percy, Dunning, Hyne, Grigg, Farley (Devon, UK)
Duncan (Fife, Devon), Hugh, Blee (Cornwall)
Green, Mansfield, (Herts)
Cavenaugh, Ransom (Middlesex)
 

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Re: Searching for origins of: MCNALLY, Catharine Christiana
« Reply #106 on: Thursday 15 October 09 12:54 BST (UK) »
Umm, yep, we could still need to look at the Cummings children,  definitely TWO families.

A Snip from a posting of David's on the old thread - for Cathy

CERTIFICATE OF DEATH  OF ANN CUMMINGS Nee BOYNTON
Page No 3
Ann Cummins , Wife of Mr John Cummins of Paterson’s Plains was Drowned July the 27th, Aged 38 Years, was Buried  at Launceston, July 29th 1825
By Me, John Youl, Chaplain

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I think this cutting would be of interest, its about Mrs Cummings and her children, at PD in Sept 1820, her daughter aged 11 and her son aged 3, saved, but not Mrs Cummings..

http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/658366?searchTerm=%22cummings%22

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Re: Searching for origins of: MCNALLY, Catharine Christiana
« Reply #107 on: Friday 16 October 09 01:11 BST (UK) »
Hi all,

been rereading the old thread:  thinking of Ann RANSOM birth c1818/1819

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1817-19?? Catharine is mother of Ann 'Ransom', fathered by Thomas Amos - no proof of this other than family history as per Leo Von Stieglitz

The Archives have supplied material on her at http://portal.archives.tas.gov.au/
that lists her as
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born BY 1817 [AO] indicates data added, and verified from other records, by the Archives Office
 

She is recorded as RANSOM not MCNALLY!!
No place of birth is given so was she even born in Tassie?
So has anyone looked for a baptismal record for Ann? 
Where is she in the early censuses /musters?

a submitted IGI entry has her as born 1815 :o
another has her father as Thomas Ransom and her born in 1817 (submitters details on this one :))
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/Search/frameset_search.asp 

thinking thinking thinking

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The following families and their Australian decendents:
Abbott, Barnard, Clarke, Inward, Lanfear, Rutter,Spencer:Middlesex
Greenaway:Cornwall
Edney, Godwin/Goodwin, Gullett:Hampshire;
Gullett:Devon
Emms:39th Regiment of Foot 1810-1832
Gordon:Scotland
Arnold, Morton:Ireland
Davies:Wales
Olcorn:Cumberland
Osborne:Staffordshire
Harrington:Kent
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Gross: Tullau Wurtmemburg Germany