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Re: Searching for origins of: MCNALLY, Catharine Christiana
« Reply #63 on: Thursday 15 October 09 02:32 BST (UK) »
Hi all,

Re Catherine's IMPEDIMENT to a marriage

I don't have access to that book at the minute about the Women of BB, but .... from memory I think that Catherine Cotton may have been associated with a chap in the NSW military, something about the Rum Corps .... I will try to figure out what.... I thought Cottons Pt was on Parramatta River near The Kissing Point on the northern shore of that river ...

I am still trying to follow up on several clues about AMOS, either TS, the legal eagle or Adam,  the police constable - also
I am still trying to follow up on Francis Spencer (ie the former husband of Jane, the lass who worked in 1825 for Mrs Ransom in VDL).   

Cheers,  JM
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Re: Searching for origins of: MCNALLY, Catharine Christiana
« Reply #64 on: Thursday 15 October 09 02:53 BST (UK) »
JM, don't bother with Catharine Cotton, she's Sydney based and well accounted for. And the Amos of the East Coast are not relevant to the search, but Jane Spencer is an interesting find, and shows that there are still Catharine traces we wot not of, which you are all steadily uncovering- we'll get there yet

David
Juler- NWNorfolk , Thomas/Alice ,pre 1800,
Clement-Durham, Eng,pre 1800
Holroyd, Staffordshire, pre 1750
Amelia Wyatt/Cole/Booth,  born Surrey ,abt 1821
John Wentworth who married Sarah Holmes, Carshalton,pre 1785
John Frith married Ann, Yorkshire/pre 1770, Settrington?
Alice Miles married Holkham Norfolk to Juler about 1745
Thomas Sanders , Buckland 1700s
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Earliest reference to Break O'Day Plains, Eastern Tasmania, before 1820

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Re: Searching for origins of: MCNALLY, Catharine Christiana
« Reply #65 on: Thursday 15 October 09 02:56 BST (UK) »
Bit More, 

MRS Catherine Cotton had left HER dwelling house at THE ROCKS, Sydney by May 1812
http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/628469?searchTerm=%22catherine+cotton%22
and she was selling it in 1809
http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/627842?searchTerm=%22catherine+cotton%22
and
http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/627849?searchTerm=%22catherine+cotton%22

Also,  (this from NSW Col Sec index)
COTTON, Catherine
 
1809 Oct 6  Memorial (a letter or petition to the Col Sec) 
1810 Jan  land on North Shore purchased by Edward Redmond 

I will try to figure out where Mrs Catherine Cotton went to  ;)



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Re: Searching for origins of: MCNALLY, Catharine Christiana
« Reply #66 on: Thursday 15 October 09 03:05 BST (UK) »
Umm,
Catherine Cotton Sydney based .  ???...  Thanks David, but umm, on quick NSW BDM I cannot find her in NSW at all....

of course, still searching !

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Re: Searching for origins of: MCNALLY, Catharine Christiana
« Reply #67 on: Thursday 15 October 09 03:12 BST (UK) »
Bit more,

Jane Spencer (the lady working for Mrs Ransom ie Catharine McNally, in VDL in 1825), seems to have several children with her husband (Francis) from around 1810 to 1819 and then another in 1825 - a girl, named Jane....   perhaps twas not just the loss of Mr & Mrs Ransom's licence in VDL that may have been behind Catharine's urging Jane to return to Sydney...

Cheers, 

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Re: Searching for origins of: MCNALLY, Catharine Christiana
« Reply #68 on: Thursday 15 October 09 03:23 BST (UK) »
Bit More,

Jane & Francis Spencer noted as parents for a baby named Jane, dying in NSW in 1825....  :'(

Francis Spencer in abt 1820 in VDL...  as a letter was waiting for him there.
http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/658935?searchTerm=%22francis+spencer%22

Could that be where the apparent blemish on Catharine McNally's character was "aired"

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Re: Searching for origins of: MCNALLY, Catharine Christiana
« Reply #69 on: Thursday 15 October 09 04:02 BST (UK) »
Jane was in her 59th year when she died in Clarence St Sydney NSW in 1854, relic of the LATE Mr Francis Spencer of LAUNCESTON VDL (although it seems that he died in Victoria abt 1851)

Those various people certainly moved around !


http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/8775631?searchTerm=%22francis+spencer%22

Cheers,

JM

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Re: Searching for origins of: MCNALLY, Catharine Christiana
« Reply #70 on: Thursday 15 October 09 04:18 BST (UK) »
Hi all,

especially Robyn, re your thoughts on Catharine's possible year of birth.... 

I have noticed a submitted tree (ummm  ::) yes I know) .... I have spotted a Catherine Mcnally born Ireland 1781....  the tree is a private tree, so I have sent a message to the tree owner asking politely for some further information.... I discreetly mentioned Tasmania, a possible second marriage there in about 1830...  Tree owner active so keep fingers crossed !!!

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Re: Searching for origins of: MCNALLY, Catharine Christiana
« Reply #71 on: Thursday 15 October 09 06:47 BST (UK) »
Bit More,

From a submitted tree, (yes I know  ::) ) Ireland, Monaghan ? birth 1781 of Owen McNally....  married to a Catherine MECADUM around 1800, three children, last one in 1812.... no further trace of the couple after 1812....  although at least one child stayed in Ireland and married there; another went to Canada and married there...

However, on off-chance anyOwen McNally may be part of Catherine's "impediment" here's one

Owen MCNALLY as a crewman in January 1823 on Elizabeth & Mary to or from MACQUARIE ISLAND and he was not born in the colony .  There's a   ;D "Free by Certificate no" Umm.... 16/2 (and other digits, hard to read, could be
16/268 or even 4 digits...

EDIT to note, I think the "16" in the Certificate number refers to the year 1816, being the year the servitude/sentence of transportation was complete...

Cheers,  JM



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