Searching for origins of: MCNALLY, Catharine Christiana

[rpoole]

Hi Wiggy,

I am a distant relation through marriage to the Von Stieglitz family.  You may have already looked at this possible lead to Catherine.  I refer to the LDS report to the IGI for the christening of Catherine McNALLY 6th Jan 1790 in Ireland, daughter of Henry and Alice McNALLY.  See following familsearch link:

http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=/eng/search/ancestorsearchresults.asp

Perhaps she was a McNALLY by birth?   

Aussie Bob 

[Wiggy]

Aussie Bob,

Thanks for your suggestion - yes I have looked at this possibility - now, do you have any way of getting her to Hobart?  That would be FANTASTIC!   Meanwhile, we can't make the connection so have put that date and person on the back burner.   But the thought that Catharine is 'nee' McNally has occurred - specially as she gave herself as 'unmarried' on son Thomas's birth record.

Do you have any further knowledge of the Anne Ransom saga - we have a suggestion that Anne 'Ransom' was in fact a child of Thomas Amos and Catharine, and adopted by Thomas Ransom (and Catharine) - this knowledge came to us via Leo Von Stiegltiz from Tübingen, Germany, who put a post on the Killymoon Blog site.   That is the closest we have come to finding Anne's origins and we were hoping to get to Catharine via Anne in that case.   If you are married to a descendant it will be via Anne I believe - correct?

Anything you can do to further the cause would be gratefully received.  How close have you got?

Wiggy

[rpoole]

Sorry Wiggy,

I did research this some time ago, but only got to about where you are now, less the bit about Thomas Amos. (now that would have been a scandal back in those days if it was known).

As I said, I am only a distant relly, this by virtue of my great grandmother marrying Henry DUCKETT and her daughter Emma, my grandmother, married George POOLE, my grandfather, and Augustus STIEGLITZ, Ann's son, married Henry DUCKETT's sister Sarah, thus forming the distant link.

I will now keep an eye out for any clues of Catherine's journey but sorry I cant be of more help.

Regards, Aussie Bob 

[Wiggy]

Bad luck Aussie Bob!

Oh well, can't be helped - but nice try wasn't it?  That surely is a convoluted link!!   But there you go - you just never know what might turn up.

Thanks for making contact and here's hoping an extra pair of eyes will find something! 

JM,
What feast of untried newpapers you've put me on to!   Keep me going for weeks!   Might even take longer as I can't see how to put in the search name to limit the reading!  

Cheers,

Wiggy

[majm]

Bit More,

T S Amos died Nov 1819 in Sydney aged 42 'after short illness' ... his two orphaned sons returned to UK Feb 1820...

If there was a scandal or even just a dalliance with Catharine  in VDL then it would be Jan-Apr 1819.... that would give possible birth for Catharine's child falling around the time of or just after any local Muster (mid spring) ... perhaps she was with her "Accoucher" delivering her baby     

Don't you love THAT  fashionable word in that era for the MIDWIFE 

Edit to add  baby girl named Ann, perhaps (this from Wiggy's list at the head of this thread)...
1817-19?? Catharine is mother of Ann 'Ransom', fathered by Thomas Amos - no proof of this other than family history as per Leo Von Stieglitz - and we haven't found the time frame to back this up yet.  (However you don't get this family story without some historic reason - you don't just 'make this up' specially when we have evidence of a Thomas Amos being in the colonies at the time.)

JM

[rpoole]

Hi again Wiggy,

Do you have any details on Thomas AMOS connecting him to the AMOS brothers, Adam and John, who settled on the East Coast from Scotland and who's offspring married a STIEGLITZ?

Aussie Bob

[Wiggy]

Not that I know of - he was a solicitor who arrived and took his place in the legal system in 1817 - seems to have arrived as a widower (needing entertainment apparently!) with two young children.  He died in 1819 in Port Jackson of peritonitis, aged 42.  He made a trip to VDL in Jan-April of 1819 on legal business, arriving on Derwent and leaving on Surrey   

His children returned to England in March 1820 with Mrs Robinson.

Wow - I really know quite a lot about him!   But that is about the sum total - I found quite a bit of this last night from the Sydney papers.

That is interesting about the Stieglitz connection to Amos of the East Coast!

Wiggy

[rpoole]

Henry Lewis Von STIEGLITZ wed Helen AMOS, daughter of Adam AMOS, at Campbelltown Tas 9/12/1834

Aussie Bob

[Wiggy]

Small world isn't it!  With few-ish names in it in those times!

But, Henry Lewis was a brother of Frederick and Francis - right - so another of the same generation.  Not Anne's son I don't think.   Her sons were Lewis Frederick, Edgar, Caspar, Oscar and Tasman.   

I think I did read that there were more Stieglitz sons -  in ADB.

Interesting!   Not awfully helpful in getting closer to Catharine!! - but interesting none the less.

Wiggy