I haven't checked, but I am certain that the East Coast Amos family has nothing to do with Thomas S Amos,solicitor, the assumed lover of Anne Cummings between Jan -April 1819, who died later in that year at Sydney.
The reference in the Examiner 1889 (Death of Francis Walter VS) to his wife (Ann) being the daughter of Thomas Amos of Killymoon can only be an 1889 Examiner misreporting and a typo of Amos for Ransom- Ann married Francis Walter in 1840 as Ann Ransom, the (adopted) daughter of Thomas Ransom (1741) and Catherine McNally(1789?) The builders and owners of Killymoon in 1840 were Fred L V Stieglitz and his wife was Catharine Christiana McNally, who married Fred L Vs in 1830 after her de facto partner Thomas Ransom (1741) died in 1829 at Green Ponds (Kempton) . Thomas (1741) never lived at Killymoon which wasn't built or thought of in 1829 The owner of Killymoon in 1889 was Thomas Ransom ( born 1820, son of Catharine McNally and registered as Thomas McNally and who was the beneficiary as Thomas McNally under the will ofThomas Ransom (1741)). He subsequently adopted the name Ransom.This Thomas Ransom (1820) was the step son of Fred L VS and by upbringing but not blood the brother of Ann Ransom
Yes, the facts ,and the scenario we have hypothesised to link those facts, have led us to the conclusion that Ann was the natural daughter of Thomas S Amos and Ann Cummings, but there is no connection between Thomas Amos and Killymoon- he was well dead (1819) before Killymoon was built and named during 1830s by Von Stieglitz and Catherine (McNally)
Welcome Wivenhoe to the saga and to Team Catharine- your lead re the Arthur Files is exciting- you seem to be really on the ball there- are you able to follow this up, or is this one to throw to the AOT and ask for a clarification?
JM- Ithink that the German post is my fault- my discredited Bryan Overend/Catherine McNalty scenario. You may remember that i suggested that Bryan had reinvented himself as Benjamin Ormond after the wreck of the Emu, but later we found this was not so. The only way anybody could refer to Benjamin ( not Bryan ) Overhand was as a result of this early theory. Similarly I have contacted Dave von Stieglitz recently, and he also had been mislead by this earlystory of mine- mea culpa- I think that he was the second David that was referred to earlier as having this theory independently, but , alas,' twas down to me again.
I am currentl trying to track any descendants of Christina Von Stieglitz, eldest dau (1842) of Ann Ransom and Francis Walter. She married Marmaduke Robert Langdale (of London)in 1867 at Avoca but is worse than Catherine at leaving no traces- just disappears from sight . I am checking with the successors of Paramatta Mental Hospital for the entrance file of a Marmaduke Robert langdale who died 83 ( right age) in 1922 . He had a sister Louisa , and her father was stated as 41st regiment of Foot. IGI shows a Marmaduke marrying a Louisa Jordan in London in 1812, but that doesnt fit with Louisa Langdale born 1845 at Hampstead- however that entry is the right girl because it specifies she married a Von Stieglitz , so there is an LSD submitter out there who is looking as well- hope she stumbles on this thread. I am just hoping that oral history or documents may pass down the female lines, so i picked the eldest daughter and the one called Christina!
Good hunting, all!
David
